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  • W [email protected]

    Oh, so you are a grass trainer? Why, I often roleplay as a Shaymin

    the_grass_trainer@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #85

    How many gym badges you got??

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    • W [email protected]

      You're confusing the command again

       -L, --listfiles package-name...
                     List files installed to your system from package-name.
       -S, --search filename-search-pattern...
                     Search for a filename from installed packages.
      

      dpkg -S /my/file/path

      Finds which, installed, package installed the file.

      dpkg -L samba | grep .conf

      Greps through the list of files installed by a given package.

      If the file you want isn't in there then it wasn't installed by the package itself (could be created on the fly by the binary for example), in which case obviously the package system can't track it.

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      #86

      Oh I see, this command didn't really do what I wanted it to do then. I just wanted to be able to see the locations of any files associated with a program. If I knew the file path I could just find them haha

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      • C [email protected]

        I will only grant that, assuming we are only looking at current popular smartphone OS's ... and you turn off gestures

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        #87

        Man I hate gestures. I'd happily use a phone twice as thick if it meant a real keyboard with real function buttons. (I have large hands and blunt fingers, little touchpad keyboard is a nightmare and there's no easy way to attach a stylus of comfortable size)

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        • W [email protected]

          Unfortunately this also applies to Flatpak software in Linux. That's one area where distros really need to focus on improving usability.

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          #88

          Maybe flatpack should do a better job of exporting the application data into the user's home.

          You can't insist on sandboxing the applications and expect them to export the data on a main user directory.

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          • C [email protected]

            I will only grant that, assuming we are only looking at current popular smartphone OS's ... and you turn off gestures

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            #89

            and you turn off gestures

            Yeah, gestures are horrible

            assuming we are only looking at current popular smartphone OS's

            I was speaking of every interface to navigate a computer for general use. What would you consider to be the best in that regard ?

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            • V [email protected]

              You should see how much developing for apple hurts when using a multiplatform ecosystem.

              In Flutter for example, there are entire documentation sections on "Apple is incredibly stupid and needs special care"

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              #90

              I can only imagine how painful it is for those developers

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              • R [email protected]

                It used to be so much simpler. I remember having a Galaxy S3 and whenever I saved a file I knew exactly where it went. There was a file explorer built in, and downloads went to the downloads folder.

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                #91

                My 2022 android still has a file explorer. But it seems to randomly drop files all over into multiple download folders it created

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                • S [email protected]

                  Is this your first file system? It literally does sort it into "videos" if I have a video or "images" if it's an image. What do you crack heads want it to do?

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                  #92

                  Exactly the fucking following: put my fucking files in the directories I fucking created for my fucking files, show me the fucking file system the way it fucking looks when traversed by fucking ls

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                  • G [email protected]

                    I use Windows and have never encountered what you are describing.

                    none of my files have ever been 'moved' to OneDrive and none of my files that are on OneDrive have ever been locked behind a paywall.

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                    #93

                    I often see people saying stuff like this that I never run into. I wonder if the difference is whether your OS is tied to a Microsoft account or not. I used an exploit to bypass the account requirement when I set up Windows 11.

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                    • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                      The meme says saved, not just download.

                      1. Open Recorder app.
                      2. Record and press save.
                      3. Open Files app.
                      4. The file is not in recent.
                      5. The file is not in audio.

                      Delete this bullshit.

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                      #94

                      Oh, so I am not alone. Good to know, but damn what a crap of "software"

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                      • A [email protected]

                        On linux you don't search, you find

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                        #95

                        That's a good one 🙂

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                        • L [email protected]

                          Oh I see, this command didn't really do what I wanted it to do then. I just wanted to be able to see the locations of any files associated with a program. If I knew the file path I could just find them haha

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                          dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME does what you want. In my initial reply I mentioned that dpkg -S is the inverse.

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                          • C [email protected]

                            This is a real problem with young people coming into the office. They don't know how to navigate a file system. They've never had to do it.

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                            No, it's a file system issue. It randomly makes folders and decides where to put things. A photo could be in the dcim folder, a photos folder on my outside card or a photos. It may or may not be in recents.

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                            • R [email protected]

                              It used to be so much simpler. I remember having a Galaxy S3 and whenever I saved a file I knew exactly where it went. There was a file explorer built in, and downloads went to the downloads folder.

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                              #98

                              Literally exactly how it still works.

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                              • R [email protected]

                                It used to be so much simpler. I remember having a Galaxy S3 and whenever I saved a file I knew exactly where it went. There was a file explorer built in, and downloads went to the downloads folder.

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                                That was Samsung doing the work of dumbing things down for you. Stock Android has always been fast and loose with the locality of saved files. Especially if you are doing anything with an image processing app. They tend to make their own dump folders and don't bother telling you that they e made them in their own directory under the .data folder or someplace in .bin

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                                • V [email protected]

                                  You should see how much developing for apple hurts when using a multiplatform ecosystem.

                                  In Flutter for example, there are entire documentation sections on "Apple is incredibly stupid and needs special care"

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                                  Ohhhhh yes. Flutter + Apple has tested my will to live multiple times.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    That was Samsung doing the work of dumbing things down for you. Stock Android has always been fast and loose with the locality of saved files. Especially if you are doing anything with an image processing app. They tend to make their own dump folders and don't bother telling you that they e made them in their own directory under the .data folder or someplace in .bin

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                                    #101

                                    You say 'dumbing things down' I say 'that's kinda condescending talk that implies that anything else isn't shut when it clearly is'

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                                    • W [email protected]

                                      dpkg -L PACKAGE_NAME does what you want. In my initial reply I mentioned that dpkg -S is the inverse.

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                                      #102

                                      Here is the entire output I get when I get that command.

                                      username@server:~$ dpkg -L samba /usr/share/doc/samba/examples /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/get_next_oid /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/ol-schema-migrate.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-nds.schema /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema-FDS.ldif /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema-netscapeds5.x.README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema.IBMSecureWay /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.ldif /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema.at.IBM-DS /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema.oc.IBM-DS /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/genlogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/genlogon/genlogon.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon/mklogon.conf /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon/mklogon.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/ntlogon.conf /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/ntlogon.py /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/VampireDriversFunctions /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/prtpub.c /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/readme.prtpub /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/smbprint.sysv /usr/share/lintian /usr/share/lintian/overrides /usr/share/lintian/overrides/samba /usr/share/man /usr/share/man/man1 /usr/share/man/man1/log2pcap.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/mvxattr.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/oLschema2ldif.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/profiles.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sharesec.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbcontrol.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man8 /usr/share/man/man8/eventlogadm.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/pdbedit.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba-bgqd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba-gpupdate.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba_downgrade_db.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/smbd.8.gz /usr/share/samba /usr/share/samba/admx /usr/share/samba/admx/GNOME_Settings.admx /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US/GNOME_Settings.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US/samba.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/ru-RU /usr/share/samba/admx/ru-RU/GNOME_Settings.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/samba.admx /usr/share/samba/mdssvc /usr/share/samba/mdssvc/elasticsearch_mappings.json /usr/share/samba/update-apparmor-samba-profile /var /var/lib /var/lib/samba /var/lib/samba/printers /var/lib/samba/printers/COLOR /var/lib/samba/printers/IA64 /var/lib/samba/printers/W32ALPHA /var/lib/samba/printers/W32MIPS /var/lib/samba/printers/W32PPC /var/lib/samba/printers/W32X86 /var/lib/samba/printers/WIN40 /var/lib/samba/printers/x64 /usr/share/bug/samba/presubj /usr/share/bug/samba/script

                                      Now, if I grep those commands, I get these outputs

                                      username@server:~$ dpkg -S samba | grep "smb.conf" samba-common: /usr/share/samba/smb.conf samba-common: /usr/share/doc/samba-common/examples/smb.conf.default python3-samba: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/samba/gp/gp_smb_conf_ext.py

                                      username@server:~$ dpkg -L samba | grep "smb.conf" username@server:~$

                                      And these are copy and pasted straight from my terminal.

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                                      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                                        No, it's a file system issue. It randomly makes folders and decides where to put things. A photo could be in the dcim folder, a photos folder on my outside card or a photos. It may or may not be in recents.

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                                        I'm saying that people who have grown up in the world of smartphones and apps are used to files just going into the ether and the app knowing where it is, and they never learned how to navigate a file system.

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Terrible analogy honestly.
                                          Feel free to not use this software, nobody will ever force you to use it.

                                          This is not software to entertain you. It's a tool that you don't understand how to use and choose to blame the people building it for free.

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                                          It's a tool that you don't understand how to use and choose to blame the people building it for free failing to properly document their tool.

                                          Ftfy

                                          Just because it's provided free doesn't mean you're off the hook for not telling people how it works, dumbass

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