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RFK Jr.’s FDA chief says diabetics should take cooking classes instead of insulin

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  • panarab@lemm.eeP [email protected]

    People are too tired and overworked to cook. Poor people are far more likely to spend too much time commuting to work too.

    And their suggestion only addresses one type of diabetes. There’s a whole other type of diabetes.

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    I think its implicit that he's only talking about type 2 diabetes, which is the vast majority of the cases in the US

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      A good rule of thumb whenever I hear anything about what this administration does in regards to health I try to look at it through the lens of eugenics. They want to get rid of the people they consider "weak" and think that using money to help those that need it to be a waste of money. People with autism, weak immune systems, chronic illnesses, poor people, drug addicts, and pretty much anyone else they consider undesirable and less than human. Also, they consider our tax money as their personal bank account as if the country was a company and our taxes are their profits. Pretty fucked up, but it makes more sense than trying to rationalize clearly irrational behavior.

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      "Mr. Trump said that if it was up to Mr. Miller there would be only 100 million people in this country, and they would all look like Mr. Miller." - NYTimes

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        No! Stop acting like they're all stupid, that's what they want you to think.

        He was a pancreatic surgeon at Johns Hopkins. It's literally impossible for him to not be familiar with diabetes unless he has experienced serve memory loss recently.

        He's pushing eugenics and wanting to kill off people with chronic illnesses

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        Its actually kinda interesting how long they have been taking the "poor and disabled will just kill themselves off" approach. In 2012 Romney was also campaigning on repealing Medicaid and Medicare.
        He literally said "people don't die from a lack of insurance" happy to ignore any chronic diseases and blame the individual.

        He even had proposed less funding for ambulances and more for services to collect bodies cause he even expected more people to die. We are still there with this party but even more racist and victim blaming while being more aggressive in who the other is while demanding more children to keep capitalism going up... Bunch of the worst people who just want whatever they want and never reality.

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          Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

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            Any pictures of this spliced with Trump and his fast food yet

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              I hate to be one to agree, but if he's referring to type 2 diabetes, then it's actually a valid point.

              Type 2 is not only preventable but reversable (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).

              This has been known for a while. Even major diabetes organizations and medical universities say it.

              The problem is, good luck convincing someone to switch their diet. And if they wanted to, they may not even be able to afford it.

              If it were easy, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and obesity related illnesses would be rare.

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                They get away with this shit because a lot of us don't actually engage them back in places that matter. Sure we all talk here but it's not like we're very visible. Right now, and for the next year, this comment will be shared on all other social media with a gaggle of agreement. But we will forget this by tomorrow. So they can saw say whatever they want really

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                • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                  Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that's a great idea.

                  And they should also provide free insulin.

                  Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

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                  Sounds like socialism to me.

                   

                  I like it!!

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                    Is a total ban on diabetes medicine on the way? This is an effort to kill anyone who isn't young and fit.

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                    Yeah, I’d say yes. It's a primer and warning shot. They’ll roll it out in phases.

                    It gets a reaction out of us. And not always a logical one. A lot of people’s gut instinct is just to deny whatever “they” say. That does two things:

                    First, it gets their base thinking and talking about how many T2 diabetics are supposedly just consequences of lifestyle.

                    Second, it pushes the left into reflexively denying that even though it’s partly true. So now, when any real conversation comes up, there’s already a schism. And they can use that to sneak more garbage through, stuff that benefits them and their friends.

                    Can we head them off at the pass?

                    No. Never.

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                      Weird. The only thing I can think is that we should string these motherfuckers up asap.

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                      Robespierre special

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                        Yes and no for US. We have folks lining up for ice cream at Walmart and jabbing insulin with it. Diabetes is a diet disease (T2). My A1C was north of 15 when diagnosed. I did go the diet route and managed it before 5.7 for 4 years and now finally it's creeping up to 5.9. It's a chronic disease and will get worse with time.

                        Other issue I find is it is expensive to eat healthy in US. So either we need to provide cheaper healthier option or we need to provide insulin. We cannot take them both away.

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                          People will die because of these fuck holes.

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                            I hate to be one to agree, but if he's referring to type 2 diabetes, then it's actually a valid point.

                            Type 2 is not only preventable but reversable (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).

                            This has been known for a while. Even major diabetes organizations and medical universities say it.

                            The problem is, good luck convincing someone to switch their diet. And if they wanted to, they may not even be able to afford it.

                            If it were easy, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and obesity related illnesses would be rare.

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                            Another option is semi glutide treatment that makes you avoid alcohol, high carb food and lower your calorie intake.

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                              I hate to be one to agree, but if he's referring to type 2 diabetes, then it's actually a valid point.

                              Type 2 is not only preventable but reversable (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).

                              This has been known for a while. Even major diabetes organizations and medical universities say it.

                              The problem is, good luck convincing someone to switch their diet. And if they wanted to, they may not even be able to afford it.

                              If it were easy, heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and obesity related illnesses would be rare.

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                              Good point, they really should start encouraging diabetics to follow a very specific diet...

                              Oh wait, they already do that because of course they fucking do?

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                              • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                                Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that's a great idea.

                                And they should also provide free insulin.

                                Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

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                                Oh no, you're thinking of a government that actually wants what's best for the people living there.

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                                  Even the sun shines on a dogs ass some days.

                                  He's not wrong, he's just right for the wrong reasons.

                                  90% of diabetics in the US are type 2. 90%.Our food culture is way out of whack, and we need to fix it.

                                  Obviously diabetics still need medical care. But revamping the way we view food will allow many Americans to keep the amount of feet they were born with.

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                                  I mean yes, he is wrong. They'd still need the fucking insulin. Even if type 2 is reversible, it's not going to be immediate.

                                  Dude didn't say, "we should be encouraging these people to eat better" because we already do that. Of course we already do that.

                                  He said that they should take cooking classes instead of insulin.

                                  Stop giving these ghouls the benefit of the doubt. They literally want you dead.

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                                  • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                                    I think its implicit that he's only talking about type 2 diabetes, which is the vast majority of the cases in the US

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                                    I don't understand why people are still so insistent on being charitable to these scumbags.

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                                      "Mr. Trump said that if it was up to Mr. Miller there would be only 100 million people in this country, and they would all look like Mr. Miller." - NYTimes

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                                      Ew could you imagine

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                                      • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                                        Is he suggesting that the US is going to fund free cooking classes that are low in fat and sugar? Because that's a great idea.

                                        And they should also provide free insulin.

                                        Maybe we can compromise and say that you have to attend 4 hours of free cooking classes every month to receive your free insulin for the month?

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                                        nonononono that's communism

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                                          No! Stop acting like they're all stupid, that's what they want you to think.

                                          He was a pancreatic surgeon at Johns Hopkins. It's literally impossible for him to not be familiar with diabetes unless he has experienced serve memory loss recently.

                                          He's pushing eugenics and wanting to kill off people with chronic illnesses

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                                          It's always wild to me when I see people with long, often illustrious careers in things like law or medicine, only to pull something like this that is completely antithetical to everything they've ever studied or worked toward, and shit all over their legacy.

                                          Like why the fuck were you a surgeon in the first place? If you had these views, why would you go into a career that focuses on helping to keep chronically ill people alive? What is going on in these people's heads?

                                          Same shit with people like Alito and Thomas. You spent your entire life studying and upholding the US Constitution, and then you get appointed to the highest court in the nation, and decide "yeah fuck that thing, let's have a dictator"?

                                          It's mind boggling. I would really like to just have some insight into what is happening in these peoples' minds...

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