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RFK Jr.’s FDA chief says diabetics should take cooking classes instead of insulin

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    You know, during ww2 when Britain enact very harsh rationing the rate of diabetes and heart disease did drop greatly. Because many fatty staples and meat were hard to come by and sugar was nearly nonexistent.

    But you know what was instrumental in increasing life expectancy by almost 10 years almost overnight? The NHS after the war. Even when rationing fully ended in the late 50s life expectancy continued to be much higher despite all the previously hard to get stuff becoming readily available again.

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      Maybe investigate dishwashing liquid.... Could that stuff be part of the cause for obesity and diabetes?

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      • vandals_handle@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

        Type 2 is not only preventable but reversible (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).

        They say this works for some, not all individuals.

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        They say this works for some, not all individuals.

        That could be a matter of compliance, obesity, or other factors (i.e. not diet alone).

        Regardless, if the majority of people could be helped with lifestyle intervention, then that should be the priority over pharmacological treatment.

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          To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
          It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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          Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.

          Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.

          Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.

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            To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
            It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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            It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.

            Not really. Anyone who actually wants to support Trump automatically falls into that group.

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              No. R3v0luti0n is impossible in a postindustrial society.

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              So was a housing price crash, until 2008.

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                To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                To be fair

                Well there's your problem. Never hand it to fascists (or grifters, or cult leaders, etc. — basically any kind of bad faith actors).

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                  They get away with this shit because a lot of us don't actually engage them back in places that matter. Sure we all talk here but it's not like we're very visible. Right now, and for the next year, this comment will be shared on all other social media with a gaggle of agreement. But we will forget this by tomorrow. So they can saw say whatever they want really

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                  For some reason Millennials decided that engaging them back was bad because it legitimatized them or something.

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                    For some reason Millennials decided that engaging them back was bad because it legitimatized them or something.

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                    Seriously, I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees this. As an old head, it's so different. Lefty's today seem very passive. They're twice as vocal but barely any effort. I think they love protesting so much because it lets them go hide in a crowd for a few hours. It's the 5k of civic participation. Maybe coming up in the early days of the internet we all actively engaged and created our own stuff. There weren't content creators we would sit and watch create stuff for us.

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                      To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                      It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                      There's no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.

                      Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don't let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.

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                        Well, I was joking but you make fantastic points and I agree with you.

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                        I'm glad you agree, but the problem is that making jokes of their willful evil is literally helping them. It's making light of a situation and implying ignorance in their actions. When in reality they are knowingly trying to kill people,

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                          They say this works for some, not all individuals.

                          That could be a matter of compliance, obesity, or other factors (i.e. not diet alone).

                          Regardless, if the majority of people could be helped with lifestyle intervention, then that should be the priority over pharmacological treatment.

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                          Naw, one size fits most is a horrible way to practice medicine. All treatments should be geared to the individuals situation and needs.

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                            So many factors involved in controlling A1C. Not just your diet but lifestyle, exercise, access to health care and healthy inexpensive food.

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                              Obviously diabetics still need medical care.

                              You late for your job at the circus?

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                              Oh you thought I was being serious. Give it another try.

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                                depends on how far along typ1 diabetes damages the iselt cells in the pancreas. the diet most likely wont work if you cant produce insulin anymore, especially you can get unreliable walmart reliant otc isulin. theres a slow decline insulin production as your islet beta cells get destroyed.

                                one of the rare ways around it if someone is on immunosuppressants all the time from organ transplant.

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                                  People will die because of these fuck holes.

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                                  Killing people is a core tenet of the Republican party.

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                                    There's no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.

                                    Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don't let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.

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                                    This is the truth, right here.

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                                      Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.

                                      Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.

                                      Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.

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                                      You guys have chips in schools? Bruh...

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                                        Type I and II diabetes (mellitus) are different diseases and insulin use isn’t simple enough that diet recommendations (which every diagnosed diabetic probably already knows) are a magical missing piece for RFK Jr.

                                        People with type I are deficient in insulin and it’s part of treating the disease right away. Insulin is used for people with type II, who aren’t deficient but can’t use insulin well, later in the disease progression if other treatments are no longer effective.

                                        If a person with type II diabetes is on insulin, diet was probably treatment number one and has probably already failed or isn’t effective enough.

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                                        Good point. Some people are born with diabetes. Diabetes-like symptoms can also appear due to Cancer treatment. I think a diet can reduce insulin intake, but I don't think it'll full on make it obsolete.

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                                          His blood sugar is high! Quickly!

                                          drags his comatose body to the nearest cooking class

                                          There we go!

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                                          Not to be pedantic, but high blood sugar symptoms are more like lethargy, constant thirst, frequent urination, irritability, and at a certain point, straight to coma as the blood turns too acidic (DKA). Nothing as exciting as seizures in there.

                                          Only because having been around a few people who were diagnosed as adults, and these very basic symptoms were overlooked, so the more people aware of them, hopefully the less people that need to visit the ICU for DKA

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