I am not a builder… but that does not seem right
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The Troll Handyman
Reminds me of the troll head meme where the head copies into oblivion
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What a Lemmy moment.
"Shoddy work? This is the fault of capitalism!"
Thoughts and prayers
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Engineered roof trusses have made most interior walls non-load-bearing. 24" on center is fine for such walls. Exterior walls are still 16" OC, though.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I spoke with a firefighter I know about those trusses. He said they were the worst thing in modern fire safety and that he refuses to buy a house with them, because once they start getting hot, you've maybe got two minutes before that stupid staple plate pops off. Two or three trusses get their stupid little plates popped off and the whole house is coming down. Makes house fires way more dangerous and time sensitive than they already were, apparently.
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Your house is incorrect. 16" on-center wall studs have been a thing for way more than 30 years.
Non-load bearing interior walls less than 8’ tall are often 24” studs.
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I am not familiar with the removing a section of drywall in order to hang a TV technique
Thewhole "story" seems dumb. They only checkt at that exact same height and decided to open up the wall.
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I am not familiar with the removing a section of drywall in order to hang a TV technique
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Use stud finder (beep) move it two inches (still beep) move it further (still beep) move it again (still beep). "Stud finder must be broken" Get another stud finder (still beep but the whole section again) "I need to know what's behind this wall before I just bolt this TV to this fucking thing" (cut away the drywall) "I better make this look like something stupid for fake Internet points..."
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So is true that in the US, the walls are so weak? they can't even hold a TV?
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So is true that in the US, the walls are so weak? they can't even hold a TV?
I don't think so. Modern homes are usually standard drywall. I live in an older home that has wood panneling as was common in the '70s. It's a bitch to hang anything with it.
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I don't think so. Modern homes are usually standard drywall. I live in an older home that has wood panneling as was common in the '70s. It's a bitch to hang anything with it.
drywall is how you guys call that plaster infused cardboard construction material, right?
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drywall is how you guys call that plaster infused cardboard construction material, right?
Yes, but it's more than that. I am by no means an expert though. The Wikipedia article can explain it better than me. What are your walls made of?
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drywall is how you guys call that plaster infused cardboard construction material, right?
Correct, gypsum infused cardboard, usually screwed into 2x4 wood studs. It can support a significant amount of weight if it is distributed evenly which is why we have drywall anchors to add stability, but it will never be as solid as a bolt sunk into a stud, weather and other conditions render it into wet chalk and your tv will swan dive into the carpet at some point
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NEC 314.23(B) An enclosure supported from a structural member ... shall be rigidly supported either directly or by using a ... or wood brace
NEC 314.23(B)(2) ... Wood braces shall have a cross section not less than 1"x2"
This is fine. I'm not an electrician and don't know what that is securing the romex but I assume that's approved.
I mean I guess if the inspector wants they could deny it for not being "neat and workmanlike" but they'd have to really be an asshole. Like it's weird but it's not going anywhere, not like a switch is a heavy piece of equipment. This would probably even be fine for a light.
Since you seem to be comfortable citing the codes, what about the space between those studs? I thought it had to be a little less than the 2 feet we seem to see here.
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Correct, gypsum infused cardboard, usually screwed into 2x4 wood studs. It can support a significant amount of weight if it is distributed evenly which is why we have drywall anchors to add stability, but it will never be as solid as a bolt sunk into a stud, weather and other conditions render it into wet chalk and your tv will swan dive into the carpet at some point
Doesn't feel safe to me, like the pig in the wooden house
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Doesn't feel safe to me, like the pig in the wooden house
"Then I'll huff, and I'll puff, and I'll hurricane your house down"
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America…land of the lawless.
I mean all builders/electricians/plumbers are cowboys. If the task could be standardized they'd not be making bank so consistently. The job is always ad-hoc, custom, and temporary-permanent
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Yes, but it's more than that. I am by no means an expert though. The Wikipedia article can explain it better than me. What are your walls made of?
Note: not a professional, I’ve just helped a few people with renovations.
In Europe, usually brick, concrete, or in newer homes interior walls use “fast build bricks”, which are larger and lighter. In not sure, but pretty confident that these are largely gypsum.
Sometimes larger rooms are partitioned with plates made of cardboard and gypsum - I suspect these are very similar to your drywall. But these are not part of the permanent structure, and new owners will often change or remove them (but honestly they sometimes remove brick walls too, which is fine as long as it’s not a structural wall).
In my own house, one wall (between kitchen and dining room) is entirely wood. All the rest is brick, finished with plaster. This house was built in the early 80s.
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So is true that in the US, the walls are so weak? they can't even hold a TV?
In the EU (or atleast my part of it), studwalls are commonly used for the inner walls of office buildings. If you want to hang anything heavy on them (like a large TV), then you need to anchor it into the studs. Studwalls are not a bad solution, but if they are build as cheap as possible, then they can indeed be very flimsy.
I wouldn't mind having a studwall in my own home, but I would use OSB+gypsum instead of 2*gypsum to give it some additional strength. And I'd never use it for outer walls.
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I don't think so. Modern homes are usually standard drywall. I live in an older home that has wood panneling as was common in the '70s. It's a bitch to hang anything with it.
The popular wood panels from the 70s and 80s is typically wainscoting and that shit is hella thin
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The popular wood panels from the 70s and 80s is typically wainscoting and that shit is hella thin
Yes it is, and you can hear everything going on in the room next to yours.
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In the EU (or atleast my part of it), studwalls are commonly used for the inner walls of office buildings. If you want to hang anything heavy on them (like a large TV), then you need to anchor it into the studs. Studwalls are not a bad solution, but if they are build as cheap as possible, then they can indeed be very flimsy.
I wouldn't mind having a studwall in my own home, but I would use OSB+gypsum instead of 2*gypsum to give it some additional strength. And I'd never use it for outer walls.
Unless you're hanging a CRT you really don't need to bother screwing into the studs. Get the right type of plug and you can hang some pretty absurd weights from drywall, especially if most of the force is straight down like it would be with a tv mount. I really like the screw-in type plug. Easy to install, no possibility of the toggle not toggling or whatever.
If you want to mount one of those extendo-mounts I'd probably bother to screw it into the studs though, to be fair.
