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    No shot. You can't even play Clair Obsur on it.

    I'm also struggling to think of any JRPGs that have been released on Switch but not PS4/5 (aside from first party like Mario RPG). While I can probably name a dozen that the Switch hardware can't even handle.

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    Well you have Final Fantasy up to 12, Persona, Dragon Quest, Octopath, Bravely Default II, Suikoden remaster, which are some multi platform games.

    Xenoblade, Fire Emblem are two pretty heavy and exclusive series. Then as you mentioned Mario RPG (+paper mario).

    I agree there are some recent JRPGs that are probably too demanding though. Clair Obscur I am hoping for a Switch 2 version, but we will see.

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      I've no idea what the discourse is like today but from what I recall:

      • Nintendo: if you really like the Marios, Zeldas, sidescrollers and platformers.
      • Sony: if you like highly cinematic games, action adventure games with good graphics and JRPGs.
      • Microsoft (consoles after Halo 3): if you need the yearly releases of WWE and sports games and you want to support American businesses. Also, at some point, there was Lost Odyssey.

      Have things changed?

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      Ahh, the push i needed to NOT fall into microsoft.

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        I loved my Switch. I'm not even considering buying a Switch 2. I'll just stick to pc gaming.

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        That's such a great way to phrase that.

        The switch 2 has a lot more competition than the switch had, and hasn't made up much ground.

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        • A [email protected]

          I've no idea what the discourse is like today but from what I recall:

          • Nintendo: if you really like the Marios, Zeldas, sidescrollers and platformers.
          • Sony: if you like highly cinematic games, action adventure games with good graphics and JRPGs.
          • Microsoft (consoles after Halo 3): if you need the yearly releases of WWE and sports games and you want to support American businesses. Also, at some point, there was Lost Odyssey.

          Have things changed?

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          consoles after Halo 3

          That’s very new then

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            Every switch owner I know has a terrible opinion of the switch 2s price and the new 90$ price tag they started for games.

            Meanwhile more and more people around me are buying a steam deck, I have converted 4 people last year alone. Even my nephew has one and is happy with it.

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            People around me have a different sort of take. Most of them have big powerful desktops already, and Deck doesn't really appeal to them, so they all ended up buying Switch 1s eventually for the exclusives and portable use, and will likely follow with Switch 2. Deck is still amazing value though, considering it's a full Linux PC you can take anywhere and use how you wish.

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              People around me have a different sort of take. Most of them have big powerful desktops already, and Deck doesn't really appeal to them, so they all ended up buying Switch 1s eventually for the exclusives and portable use, and will likely follow with Switch 2. Deck is still amazing value though, considering it's a full Linux PC you can take anywhere and use how you wish.

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              The people around me argue the exact opposite. When they have a desktop, they already have a hige library of games that they dont have to ourchase. But even the ones that dont have a desktop usually get persuaded when I tell them waht some games cost during sales.

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                The people around me argue the exact opposite. When they have a desktop, they already have a hige library of games that they dont have to ourchase. But even the ones that dont have a desktop usually get persuaded when I tell them waht some games cost during sales.

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                Fair enough. Steam sales are a pathway to deals some consider unnatural, or so the saying goes. Especially with things like Humble Bundle.

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                  Millions of Steam Decks and their ilk have been sold, and run games significantly better on SteamOS than their Windows counterparts, to the point that Microsoft is reportedly cancelling their own gaming handheld plans. Not a massive challenger to the Switch 2 for most ordinary people, but things are definitely changing.

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                  Microsoft are likely going to keep on trying anyway, Deck is too big of a threat to their Windows gaming monopoly for them to ignore it. Just look at how they managed to get so many Windows handheld models out of the door seemingly minutes after the Deck released with its Linux based SteamOS. Their worst nightmare is people having a viable alternative to their platforms.

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                    Well you have Final Fantasy up to 12, Persona, Dragon Quest, Octopath, Bravely Default II, Suikoden remaster, which are some multi platform games.

                    Xenoblade, Fire Emblem are two pretty heavy and exclusive series. Then as you mentioned Mario RPG (+paper mario).

                    I agree there are some recent JRPGs that are probably too demanding though. Clair Obscur I am hoping for a Switch 2 version, but we will see.

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                    Can definitely agree on the Fire Emblem. Me? Hundreds of hours? Never!

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                    • P [email protected]

                      No shot. You can't even play Clair Obsur on it.

                      I'm also struggling to think of any JRPGs that have been released on Switch but not PS4/5 (aside from first party like Mario RPG). While I can probably name a dozen that the Switch hardware can't even handle.

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                      Clair Obscur is not a JRPG though

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                        Microsoft are likely going to keep on trying anyway, Deck is too big of a threat to their Windows gaming monopoly for them to ignore it. Just look at how they managed to get so many Windows handheld models out of the door seemingly minutes after the Deck released with its Linux based SteamOS. Their worst nightmare is people having a viable alternative to their platforms.

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                        Kinda agree, but the consoles already are alternatives to Windows. Don't really see what's super special about the Steam Deck, tbh.

                        Surprised Microsoft hasn't made some sort of DRM to prevent Xbox studio games from being played on Proton, though.

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                          Kinda agree, but the consoles already are alternatives to Windows. Don't really see what's super special about the Steam Deck, tbh.

                          Surprised Microsoft hasn't made some sort of DRM to prevent Xbox studio games from being played on Proton, though.

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                          The special sauce of the Deck isn't really what it's running (it's just Arch with some extra Steam stuff on top), it's more that it's something you can just buy and use without even thinking twice about anything - a more console like experience. To get a Linux handheld with that kind of performance before, you would have to go through all kinds of hoops and trouble to get it working (a lot of people aren't ready to reinstall the OS on a device they just bought), plus a lot of games just would not work well. Deck gave pressure on game makers to ensure Proton compatibility at launch, as it gives them an established market who would appreciate it.

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                            Every switch owner I know has a terrible opinion of the switch 2s price and the new 90$ price tag they started for games.

                            Meanwhile more and more people around me are buying a steam deck, I have converted 4 people last year alone. Even my nephew has one and is happy with it.

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                            Nintendo didn't start $90 games.
                            They just announced it first.

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                              i'm not up to date on general console discourse. but i know for a fact Nintendo, though never famous for being cheap, has been going mental lately. $80 for Mario Kart is mind boggling

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                              I get the sticker shock, but when in think about $ per fun-time, it's easy for me to rationalize... If you're looking for a coping mechanism that is.

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                                consoles after Halo 3

                                That’s very new then

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                                Halo 3 released a year + a couple days after I was born. I voted for president last year.

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                                  EDIT

                                  How it feels seeing Switch 2 discourse in the comments section of a meme mocking all sides of Switch 2 discourse:

                                  picture of Oppenheimer movie, scene in black and white

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                                  "Genesis does what Nintendon't!"

                                  "Oh yeah? Well Nintendon't suck so I guess Genesis does."

                                  "Bitch, please. You don't even got blood in Mortal Kombat."

                                  "AT LEAST THE MUSIC DOESN'T SOUND LIKE FARTS!"

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                                    I get the sticker shock, but when in think about $ per fun-time, it's easy for me to rationalize... If you're looking for a coping mechanism that is.

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                                    By that logic, I should be paying a couple hundred dollars for my copy of Minecraft. I played that shit for 11 years.

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                                      consoles after Halo 3

                                      That’s very new then

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                                      Halo 3 came out nearly 2 decades ago...

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                                        By that logic, I should be paying a couple hundred dollars for my copy of Minecraft. I played that shit for 11 years.

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                                        no wonder Todd Howard keeps selling skyrim to people, i alone have a 1000h+ in that game!

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                                          I loved my Switch. I'm not even considering buying a Switch 2. I'll just stick to pc gaming.

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                                          Ive set up my switch to stream pc games via steam link 😛

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