France to ban smoking outdoors in most places to protect children
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Whether its actually enforced or not will be the question. I went to Disneyland Paris 7 years ago, there were signs everywhere saying smoke only in designated areas but there were people smoking all over and none of the staff seemed to care.
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I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?
I gave mine nicotine patch from age 5.
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I love how everyone supporting this just assumes you'll still be able to smoke at your own home when it doesn't saying anything of the sort. It explicitly states 'where children COULD be present'. This is literally everywhere short of some BDSM dungeon. This is basically going to make the population choose between smoking and having kids.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yeah don't smoke near your kids. It's not that hard.
They're also making the population choose between drinking and driving.
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GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.
They shouldn't ban cigarettes.
They should ban phillip morris and co who manifacture even more harmful tabacco to turn everybody into an addict.
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You could say smoking is one of the most human activities ever. Does nothing but actively harm and potentially kill everything around you. Just what we're the best at.
But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?
Yeah prohibition is famous for working very well and not have any side effect.
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But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?
Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good
There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year
Anything but prevent phillip morris from selling their shit huh?
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LOL like here in Montreal I see people smoking right next to the "No smoking within 3 meters" or whatever sign.
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I like these laws but also I want to smoke in some places. I'd love a return of places like cigar lounges and whisky bars
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GOOD point. They shouldn't ban cigarettes until everything else bad is also banned.
There's always one. Always fucking one.
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Yeah don't smoke near your kids. It's not that hard.
They're also making the population choose between drinking and driving.
No they're not. Do they outlaw drinking everywhere children might one day walk through.
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No they're not. Do they outlaw drinking everywhere children might one day walk through.
Mind your ankles. The slopes around here are slippery.
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Which actually sounds fair. Kids do not choose to be born and do not need to inhale smoke because parents are addicted to smoking
Giving people the expectation of clean air and fresh water is far too liberal of a concept these days.
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I thought everyone in France smoked, including the kids, no?
all the more reason. what's the point of banning something if no one's doing it
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To protect children, meanwhile the soil is filled with cancer-inducing products pumped away illegally by big chemistry plants. In belgium and netherlands we can barely eat our own produce thanks to this. When are we gonna ban them??
yeah also ban those... how does all that affect this exactly?
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But seriously now. Can we speed up smoking bans? Like, everywhere?
Some European countries, including mine, has decided to raise the smoking age by 1 every year, essentially banning the next generation from smoking. Not really rapid or speeding up, but future is looking good
There was a slight problem where some people were allowed to smoke for portion of the year after birthday and before the age increase, for every year
What country is it? I always wanted this for mine.
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There’s one section of benches on my town common that smells like cigarettes from all the way over on the sidewalk. Even if it’s empty. There are so many smokers that the stink won’t go away even though it’s outside. Why do they get to ruin that section of park for everyone else?
We have this one park with a small beach section. They try to rope off a s,all smoking section away from everyone else, but you can still smell it. Why do they get to ruin the public beach for everyone else?
Sometimes other people do things we dislike, c'est la vie.
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No they're not. Do they outlaw drinking everywhere children might one day walk through.
Do you often spill drinks into the mouths of passerby’s?
The issue isn’t the substance, it’s the second hand smoke. Children are smart enough to know “this is a thing my parents do that I can’t” but no level of smart can keep the air they breath from containing smoke.
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Giving people the expectation of clean air and fresh water is far too liberal of a concept these days.
It's always cleaner if not one is smoking around you
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This comment section is a disaster, just as bad as reddit. Comments of no substance on the side of popular opinion get upvotes, and waves of downvotes come for anyone who disagrees even a little, and even if they do it in a reasonable way.
I’m mildly asthmatic so I don’t smoke, vape, etc. I have tried a few times and it is simply too much for my lungs to cope with. I still think banning people from smoking in public parks or on beaches is a bit much, and not doing the same with vaping seems like a strange double standard. I had a college roommate who both vaped and smoked, and the vaping bothered me more. I still put up with it.
Hopefully enforcement is reasonable - respectful smokers who deliberately try to keep their distance should be allowed to enjoy themselves, but I understand prosecuting(?) those who show no care and smoke right next to nonsmokers.
The issue with smoking is the second hand smoke. It causes cancer, among many other health issues. Vape on the other hand doesn’t really have this same concern.
They aren’t banning smoking because of nicotine, they are banning it because it causes cancer.
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“To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.
Replace “children” with “non-consenting people” and you’re getting close. Children are the most non-consenting people in society and deserve special protection accordingly.
