2025 Spanish Grand Prix - [POST RACE] discussion thread 🏁
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All the drivers clearly have been advised by their teams to not comment on the Max situation. Oscar basically said "didn't have context on what happened, only saw they collided, can't comment", Lando ignored the question entirely and just started talking about his own race, George was pretty non committal despite being involved in the incident and also flat out refused to comment in his role as a GPDA director (says he was "too close to comment").
Clearly they don't want any sound bites out there about it.
I can’t comment I’m sorry
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ROUND 9:
Spain
FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1991
- Number of laps: 66
- Circuit Length: 4.657 km
- Race Distance: 307.236 km
- Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
- 2024 winner: Max Verstappen
Track Map
Everyone must be trying to access the FIA documents. That site has been down since the end of the race
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ROUND 9:
Spain
FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1991
- Number of laps: 66
- Circuit Length: 4.657 km
- Race Distance: 307.236 km
- Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
- 2024 winner: Max Verstappen
Track Map
Hülk
I have to say I'm happy seeing Sauber haven't fallen completely off the face of the earth this season given how last season went.
Just need Bortaletto to get some points on the board.
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ROUND 9:
Spain
FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1991
- Number of laps: 66
- Circuit Length: 4.657 km
- Race Distance: 307.236 km
- Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
- 2024 winner: Max Verstappen
Track Map
What's going on with Antonelli? Mercedes having engine issues has been practically unheard of until now
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ROUND 9:
Spain
FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1991
- Number of laps: 66
- Circuit Length: 4.657 km
- Race Distance: 307.236 km
- Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
- 2024 winner: Max Verstappen
Track Map
Verstappen one point away from race ban
The stewards have given their explanation for Max Verstappen's collision with George Russell and have given the Red Bull driver two penalty points which takes him up to 11 points.
If you collect 12 points over a 12-month period then you are given a race ban. Verstappen will lose two points at the end of this month at the Austrian Grand Prix.
The stewards said: "From the radio communications, it was clear that the driver of Car 1 was asked by his team to ‘give the position back’ to Car 63 for what they perceived to be an earlier breach by Car 1 for leaving the track and gaining a lasting advantage (in fact, we had later determined that we would take no further action in relation to that incident).
"The driver of Car 1 was clearly unhappy with his team’s request to give the position back. At the approach to Turn 5, Car 1 significantly reduced its speed thereby appearing to allow Car 63 to overtake.
"However, after Car 63 got ahead of Car 1 at the entry of Turn 5, Car 1 suddenly accelerated and collided with Car 63. The collision was undoubtedly caused by the actions of Car 1. We therefore imposed a 10 second time penalty on Car 1." -
ROUND 9:
Spain
FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1991
- Number of laps: 66
- Circuit Length: 4.657 km
- Race Distance: 307.236 km
- Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
- 2024 winner: Max Verstappen
Track Map
Race was alright until that safety car made it spicy. Wonder why it took so long to pull into the pits - we could've had at least 1 extra lap of racing.
Mega 10 points for Hulk and Sauber. Watching him overtake a Ferrari was surreal.
Leclerc's risky tire strategy yesterday worked out well today.
Hadjar with another strong points finish.
Alonso finally with points on board.
10s penalty for Verstappen seems lenient. He got 3 penalty points for it apparently and with 11 penalty points is 1 point away from a race ban.
Another engine failure for Antonelli is bizarre.
It's a shame that Lawson wasn't able to get a point after all that brawling.
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What's going on with Antonelli? Mercedes having engine issues has been practically unheard of until now
My guess is they underestimated the cooling requirements as the race was very warm. They trying to walk a razors edge with their performance as they have a good chance of second place this season between the three teams.
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Man...Max is going to get a talking to. I can't believe he didn't get a black flag for doing that. Slowing down and then fully speeding up to hit Russel. Just absolute nonsense and terrible communication from red bull.
What was the problem with RedBull communication? (Plain real question
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My guess is they underestimated the cooling requirements as the race was very warm. They trying to walk a razors edge with their performance as they have a good chance of second place this season between the three teams.
Feels like on the final year of a car, those types of issues should be down to a science. Ah well.
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What was the problem with RedBull communication? (Plain real question
)From what I understand from the turn 1 incident on that lap with Russel, the team told Max to give the position back as he could have been deemed to gain a lasting advantage by going off track and keeping ahead. Max didn’t like the call and decided to show his team what George did to him. However it was clear that Max did it intentionally and in a what could have been dangerous manner. Completely against the code of racing really. There was no need for it and it seems in many peo0,e views he should have been/should be penalised more harshly.
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Yeah, now I see why people hated Schumacher.
Honestly, now I've grown up a bit and watched Max, I'm really glad that I was young enough to just cheer on Schumacher and either not notice or forget all his bad behaviour. I even got to have a day off school and sit in his car once when it visited a Shell near me!
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Race was alright until that safety car made it spicy. Wonder why it took so long to pull into the pits - we could've had at least 1 extra lap of racing.
Mega 10 points for Hulk and Sauber. Watching him overtake a Ferrari was surreal.
Leclerc's risky tire strategy yesterday worked out well today.
Hadjar with another strong points finish.
Alonso finally with points on board.
10s penalty for Verstappen seems lenient. He got 3 penalty points for it apparently and with 11 penalty points is 1 point away from a race ban.
Another engine failure for Antonelli is bizarre.
It's a shame that Lawson wasn't able to get a point after all that brawling.
They were waiting for the backmarkers to catch up to the rest of the field before restarting the race, is why it took so long
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ROUND 9:
Spain
FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA 2025
Circuit stats
- First Grand Prix: 1991
- Number of laps: 66
- Circuit Length: 4.657 km
- Race Distance: 307.236 km
- Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
- 2024 winner: Max Verstappen
Track Map
I had to miss the race today and so I just watched the YouTube 8min video - it looks like it was a great race and the 8minutes really didn't do it justice. Did Max pit four times in total??
Alonso looked really racy which is nice. Hulkenburg seemed to come out of nowhere. Last I saw him he was fighting Alonso for 10th, then cut to the end of the race and he stormed past a Ferrari!
Seems like Max got off lightly for what looked like a deliberate crash. Should've been a DQ from what I saw. No-one knows what was in his head of course, but it certainly looked like he crashed on purpose into Russell
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They were waiting for the backmarkers to catch up to the rest of the field before restarting the race, is why it took so long
The F1TV commentators were saying it's not mandatory for backmarkers to catch up in order to resume racing.
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The F1TV commentators were saying it's not mandatory for backmarkers to catch up in order to resume racing.
Maybe so but that is why it took so long. When they were all bunched up the safety car was ending
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I had to miss the race today and so I just watched the YouTube 8min video - it looks like it was a great race and the 8minutes really didn't do it justice. Did Max pit four times in total??
Alonso looked really racy which is nice. Hulkenburg seemed to come out of nowhere. Last I saw him he was fighting Alonso for 10th, then cut to the end of the race and he stormed past a Ferrari!
Seems like Max got off lightly for what looked like a deliberate crash. Should've been a DQ from what I saw. No-one knows what was in his head of course, but it certainly looked like he crashed on purpose into Russell
Yeah Max did 4 stops. Which sounds pretty crazy. Lots of pitstops all around, which kinda was most of the action although there were some on track overtakes as well.
I think Hulk profited off his tire choices – in the end the fact that he did not qualify well yesterday gave him more tire options for the race, and that enabled him to do a unique strategy.
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All the drivers clearly have been advised by their teams to not comment on the Max situation. Oscar basically said "didn't have context on what happened, only saw they collided, can't comment", Lando ignored the question entirely and just started talking about his own race, George was pretty non committal despite being involved in the incident and also flat out refused to comment in his role as a GPDA director (says he was "too close to comment").
Clearly they don't want any sound bites out there about it.
I mean, he definitely should not comment on that in his GDPA role since he is personally too close to that situation. Full agree on that.
Why the teams all had their drivers not comment on it however is interesting.
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I mean, he definitely should not comment on that in his GDPA role since he is personally too close to that situation. Full agree on that.
Why the teams all had their drivers not comment on it however is interesting.
Agree on the GDPA role, but they did explicitly ask him about it during the interview so figured it was at least worth mentioning.
Best theory I have is all the teams are expecting some sort of sanction over the incident and they all want to be able to be arms length and say "that was the FIA's decision" and not have sound bites where they were suggesting that something should happen.
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Feels like on the final year of a car, those types of issues should be down to a science. Ah well.
Not when you are down on aero performance. In that case, you will push the limit of the cooling to extract better aero performance.
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From what I understand from the turn 1 incident on that lap with Russel, the team told Max to give the position back as he could have been deemed to gain a lasting advantage by going off track and keeping ahead. Max didn’t like the call and decided to show his team what George did to him. However it was clear that Max did it intentionally and in a what could have been dangerous manner. Completely against the code of racing really. There was no need for it and it seems in many peo0,e views he should have been/should be penalised more harshly.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Ok but I don’t get what was wrong with the communication. They thought it would have been better to give the position back and they told him so.
