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Orgnanic Maps fork CoMaps Android preview release is out

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        Enshittification like it happened with maps.me is coming to organic maps?

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          Enshittification like it happened with maps.me is coming to organic maps?

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          Probably not for now, but the main devs displayed some bad behavior iirc, so this might be an early fork in preperation for what might be on the horizon.

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            i'm so excited

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              Is it worth a try or is it just a rebrand for now?

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                What induced the fork? Out of the loop, apparently.

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                  What induced the fork? Out of the loop, apparently.

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                  Honestly, I think it's premature - Organic Maps isn't down the drain yet. But I'm also not 100% up to date. You can see most of the context here and in the open letter linked within: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/organic-maps-open-letter/128851

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                    well, it would be nice if they added some more features to the app since its pretty bare bones. Otherwise I dont see myself migrating to this.

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                      What induced the fork? Out of the loop, apparently.

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                      Here's an open letter to the Organic Maps Shareholders with the most info:
                      https://www.comaps.app/news/2025-04-16/1/

                      Which is referenced in the article here:
                      https://news.itsfoss.com/organic-maps-fork-comaps/

                      And discussed on the OpenSource community here:
                      https://lemmy.world/post/30461779

                      Basically some drama went down between the devs.

                      • Organic Maps has remained an LLC instead of transitioning to a Nonprofit.
                        • The projects finances have not been made public (they're not required as an LLC) and there are concerns about how that money is being used.
                      • There was a decision made to include Kayak affiliate links in the app: https://web.archive.org/web/20250602163403/https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/pull/6523
                      • The current board only consists of 3 people: Roman (@rtsisyk), Viktor (@vng), and Alexander (@biodranik). Major decisions can't be made if only 1 person objects.
                      • The code for their map download service was closed sourced when an MIT license was removed and there were concerns about Organic Maps keeping in line with its open source values: https://web.archive.org/web/20250523094656/https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837#discussioncomment-11569196
                        • When these concerns were raised, Alexander (@biodranik) revoked Roman's (@rtsisyk) access https://web.archive.org/web/20250427142515/https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/pull/9860
                        • The situation was resolved about a week later with the code for the map download service becoming public and With Roman's access being restored.

                      Edit: 'to' the shareholders, not from

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                        Same here. Hopefully I can export and import my Organic maps bookmarks.

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                          Is it worth a try or is it just a rebrand for now?

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                          As I read it, it's not expected to be very different at first.

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                            I yearn for the days when we just have functional apps and no fragmented drama or centralised corporate shit.

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                              well, it would be nice if they added some more features to the app since its pretty bare bones. Otherwise I dont see myself migrating to this.

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                              Organic Maps / CoMaps is not some corporate platform, you "migrating" to them does not gain them anything. If you have a constructive suggestion, open an issue or contact them.

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                                i'll keep both apps but i would love for comaps to improve the frequency of osm data, which i found was so slow in organic maps

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                                  Probably not for now, but the main devs displayed some bad behavior iirc, so this might be an early fork in preperation for what might be on the horizon.

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                                  This is what happened:

                                  https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/MAPS.ME_to_Organic_Maps/OM_Crisis

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                                    I'm not sure what the problem with Organic maps is. I think dividing the community is generally a bad idea.

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                                      Here's an open letter to the Organic Maps Shareholders with the most info:
                                      https://www.comaps.app/news/2025-04-16/1/

                                      Which is referenced in the article here:
                                      https://news.itsfoss.com/organic-maps-fork-comaps/

                                      And discussed on the OpenSource community here:
                                      https://lemmy.world/post/30461779

                                      Basically some drama went down between the devs.

                                      • Organic Maps has remained an LLC instead of transitioning to a Nonprofit.
                                        • The projects finances have not been made public (they're not required as an LLC) and there are concerns about how that money is being used.
                                      • There was a decision made to include Kayak affiliate links in the app: https://web.archive.org/web/20250602163403/https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/pull/6523
                                      • The current board only consists of 3 people: Roman (@rtsisyk), Viktor (@vng), and Alexander (@biodranik). Major decisions can't be made if only 1 person objects.
                                      • The code for their map download service was closed sourced when an MIT license was removed and there were concerns about Organic Maps keeping in line with its open source values: https://web.archive.org/web/20250523094656/https://github.com/orgs/organicmaps/discussions/9837#discussioncomment-11569196
                                        • When these concerns were raised, Alexander (@biodranik) revoked Roman's (@rtsisyk) access https://web.archive.org/web/20250427142515/https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/pull/9860
                                        • The situation was resolved about a week later with the code for the map download service becoming public and With Roman's access being restored.

                                      Edit: 'to' the shareholders, not from

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                                      Honestly none of that seems all that bad. Unless they start actively doing something very harmful I don't see any reason not to use Organic maps.

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                                        Enshittification like it happened with maps.me is coming to organic maps?

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                                        No, it is just people stirring up drama.

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                                          I'm not sure what the problem with Organic maps is. I think dividing the community is generally a bad idea.

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                                          Here's the open letter from maintainers.

                                          Summary (direct from the linked post):

                                          Community contributors to Organic Maps have expressed serious concerns about the project's governance, transparency, and the potential for shareholder profit at the expense of the community. They are calling for a shift to a nonprofit structure, greater inclusivity in decision-making, and financial transparency, and are considering starting a new project if these issues are not addressed.

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