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    Ironically, salt has probably killed more people than both Sodium explosions and Chlorine gas combined.

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      Ironically, salt has probably killed more people than both Sodium explosions and Chlorine gas combined.

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      Stealth attack!

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        It's funny how that goes: elements that react violently often form strong bonds, so make stable and safe compounds.

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        While I do like the principle, in this specific instance I don't think it's correct.

        When sodium reacts with water it doesn't produce salt (NaCl), but sodium hydroxide (NaOH).

        This is better known as lye, and it's a strong base and highly caustic, so definitely not a safe compound.

        Edit: the other product of this reaction is hydrogen gas, which technically is stable, but also highly flammable...

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          While I do like the principle, in this specific instance I don't think it's correct.

          When sodium reacts with water it doesn't produce salt (NaCl), but sodium hydroxide (NaOH).

          This is better known as lye, and it's a strong base and highly caustic, so definitely not a safe compound.

          Edit: the other product of this reaction is hydrogen gas, which technically is stable, but also highly flammable...

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          Every time I make soap, I’m really tempted to take the lye and do the Fight Club thing to my hand. (Inner edgy fourteen year old never grew up)

          Shit gets hot fast.

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            The takeaway is that memes aren't "information" to help you form your opinions. Memes are little entertainment blobs that vastly oversimplify and exaggerate complex ideas for brevity. Everything in this specific meme is literally true, but they aren't related. There's no contradiction or irony, it's just how chemistry works - it's often not simple or intuitive, and neither are a lot of other things summed up in memes.

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              Back in college one time the President of the US visited our campus and gave a speech. The security was intense - Secret Service on rooftops and a helicopter that dropped off the Pres and then spent the whole time he was there hovering maybe 60 or 80 ft up, dead still, like it was glued in the air - I thought that part was pretty cool. Anyway a friend of mine chose that day to toss a little chunk of sodium in a fountain out in front of the chemistry building. I wasn't right there but I heard it made a big pop sound, yellow flash, and sent a column of water shooting up. Dunno if the agents saw it, heard it or both, but man were they scurrying all over the place for a while.

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                It's funny how that goes: elements that react violently often form strong bonds, so make stable and safe compounds.

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                Yes, in general forming bonds releases energy and breaking them takes energy. The simplified explanation I remember is that multiple particles are more energetic when they're apart, because they're moving around separately. When they join together in a single molecule, moving as one, they give up some of their kinetic energy as heat. Breaking the bonds requires energy to be put back in so the pieces can move around independently again.

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                  While I do like the principle, in this specific instance I don't think it's correct.

                  When sodium reacts with water it doesn't produce salt (NaCl), but sodium hydroxide (NaOH).

                  This is better known as lye, and it's a strong base and highly caustic, so definitely not a safe compound.

                  Edit: the other product of this reaction is hydrogen gas, which technically is stable, but also highly flammable...

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                  Good realization - memes are inadequate oversimplifications that are entertaining but shouldn't be mistaken for "information".

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                    Back in college one time the President of the US visited our campus and gave a speech. The security was intense - Secret Service on rooftops and a helicopter that dropped off the Pres and then spent the whole time he was there hovering maybe 60 or 80 ft up, dead still, like it was glued in the air - I thought that part was pretty cool. Anyway a friend of mine chose that day to toss a little chunk of sodium in a fountain out in front of the chemistry building. I wasn't right there but I heard it made a big pop sound, yellow flash, and sent a column of water shooting up. Dunno if the agents saw it, heard it or both, but man were they scurrying all over the place for a while.

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                    Which president?

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                      Which president?

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                      Ford. I'm old as dirt. In fact dirt and I were in Miss Hanson's class together.

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                        Ironically, salt has probably killed more people than both Sodium explosions and Chlorine gas combined.

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                        And oxygen kills everyone who dies of old age.

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                          Ford. I'm old as dirt. In fact dirt and I were in Miss Hanson's class together.

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                          Wow, Probably the most forgetable president in recent history. Definitly not the worst though. Clinton was president when I was born. I grew up with Bush in the white house and I thought that was as bad as it could get. I realize now we were eating good with Bush, comparitivly speaking anyway.

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                            Wow, Probably the most forgetable president in recent history. Definitly not the worst though. Clinton was president when I was born. I grew up with Bush in the white house and I thought that was as bad as it could get. I realize now we were eating good with Bush, comparitivly speaking anyway.

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                            Let me tell you about a fellow named Nixon...

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                              Let me tell you about a fellow named Nixon...

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                              Nixion was a very naughty boy

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                                Nixion was a very naughty boy

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                                That rascal!

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                                  The takeaway is that memes aren't "information" to help you form your opinions. Memes are little entertainment blobs that vastly oversimplify and exaggerate complex ideas for brevity. Everything in this specific meme is literally true, but they aren't related. There's no contradiction or irony, it's just how chemistry works - it's often not simple or intuitive, and neither are a lot of other things summed up in memes.

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                                  Everything in this specific meme is literally true

                                  There's no contradiction or irony, it's just how chemistry works

                                  Yes, that's what makes it such a humorous situation.

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                                    Everything in this specific meme is literally true

                                    There's no contradiction or irony, it's just how chemistry works

                                    Yes, that's what makes it such a humorous situation.

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                                    Exactly, that's how memes work - and I was pointing out how this is true of memes in general, which is why they aren't good information sources.

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                                      O2: I am the reason things burn.

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                                      H2: I make the sun burn.

                                      =

                                      H2O: I destroy houses by flooding, I kill people by drowning them, I am used by CIA for torture (waterboarding).

                                      Maybe NaCl is just scared by the H2O in the soup and its parents.

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                                      H2O2: Don't confuse me for H2O

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                                        Every time I make soap, I’m really tempted to take the lye and do the Fight Club thing to my hand. (Inner edgy fourteen year old never grew up)

                                        Shit gets hot fast.

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                                        This is one of the worst intrusive thoughts I've read yet, bravo

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                                        • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                          Sometimes that goes for relationships too.

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                                          Sometimes, but most of the time it only multiplies and one or both partners or someone(s) not part of the relationship gets badly hurt physically and/or mentally.

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