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Be like Pluto.

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    It’s only a problem when you reach a certain level of astronomical knowledge. 99% of us don’t and won’t give a shit and think the people who decided Pluto’s no longer a planet are simply assholes.

    All adults know what a “grandfather clause” is and are capable of applying that to Pluto.

    Pluto is and will always be Hot Shit.

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    the people who decided Pluto’s no longer a planet

    Yes. Fuck Mike Brown. I don't know why many people still let him dictate what to think of as a planet. The concept of "planet" is entirely man-made and doesn't follow any god given or universal criteria. While some astronomers argue that our moon is a planet too, the current criteria would even de-classify earth as a planet, should it get knocked out of our solar system.

    I see Pluto as a Planet, and have yet to see a good argument against it.

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      So whatever hypothetical density constitutes an atmosphere becomes the arbitrary line in the sand.

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      Well, yeah. But even so, it's still better than the current definition. Many "planets" have not, in fact, cleared their orbit.

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        The problem with recognizing Pluto is that Eris, Haumea, Makemake, Gonggong, Quaoar, Sedna, Ceres, Orcus, and perhaps also Salacia also should probably be included, and that makes for a nightmare of a mnemonic. As we all know, classification is decided on mnemonic plausibility.

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        Pluto and the others are planets even without including them all in the mnemonic. The mnemonic is for the first 9 planets, just like you only remember the first few digits of pi.

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          ...where's eris?..

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          Not too much, what's eris you?

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          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

            Well, yeah. But even so, it's still better than the current definition. Many "planets" have not, in fact, cleared their orbit.

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            Planet has never been very well delineated. The Sun was a "planet". Ceres was a "planet".

            When we find enough things to break up the classification, we make a new classification. Like "asteroid" or "dwarf planet" or "gas giant".

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              Pluto and the others are planets even without including them all in the mnemonic. The mnemonic is for the first 9 planets, just like you only remember the first few digits of pi.

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              Pluto was not the first 9th planet. Then again we were up to 13(?) at one point.

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                The good thing about Pluto is it's a planet whether you believe in it or not.

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                  The good thing about Pluto is it's a planet whether you believe in it or not.

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                  What are your thoughts on Ceres?

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                    The problem with recognizing Pluto is that Eris, Haumea, Makemake, Gonggong, Quaoar, Sedna, Ceres, Orcus, and perhaps also Salacia also should probably be included, and that makes for a nightmare of a mnemonic. As we all know, classification is decided on mnemonic plausibility.

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                    Yeah, there never was an option to keep 9 planets. It was either 8, all of which are already familiar, or many many more. And they wouldn't all be added neatly at the end either. Removing Pluto was the sensible choice.

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                      Pluto was not the first 9th planet. Then again we were up to 13(?) at one point.

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                      Pluto was

                      Because Pluto is the 9th planet?

                      How are you counting?

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                        Yeah, there never was an option to keep 9 planets. It was either 8, all of which are already familiar, or many many more. And they wouldn't all be added neatly at the end either. Removing Pluto was the sensible choice.

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                        What's the problem with having many many planets in our solar system? You don't have to remember them all.

                        We also have many many stars in our galaxy. We don't have to know their names for them to still be stars.

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                          What's the problem with having many many planets in our solar system? You don't have to remember them all.

                          We also have many many stars in our galaxy. We don't have to know their names for them to still be stars.

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                          You don't ever see people calling for Ceres to be proclaimed planet, all they care about is Pluto.

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                            You don't ever see people calling for Ceres to be proclaimed planet, all they care about is Pluto.

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                            I think Pluto having been widely regarded as a planet before and having a visible heart shape on it's surface is an easier sell. I say they are both planets.

                            What’s the problem with having many many planets in our solar system?

                            You also can't find a good problem with this, can you?

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                              I think Pluto having been widely regarded as a planet before and having a visible heart shape on it's surface is an easier sell. I say they are both planets.

                              What’s the problem with having many many planets in our solar system?

                              You also can't find a good problem with this, can you?

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                              I say they are both planets.

                              Cool. Can you name all planets in the Solar System, in the correct order?

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                                I say they are both planets.

                                Cool. Can you name all planets in the Solar System, in the correct order?

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                                I can't.

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                                  I can't.

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                                  Yeah. To answer your question, I see that as the problem. If you don't, well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

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                                    Yeah. To answer your question, I see that as the problem. If you don't, well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

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                                    Do you know why you apply this logic to planets, but not stars?

                                    I also can't name all the planets outside of our solar system, but that seems to be less of an issue for you.

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                                      "Educated"

                                      We eliminated Earth by accident.

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                                      Of course we didn't. The International Earth-Destruction Advisory Board would have reported that...

                                      Shit.

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                                        Pluto and the others are planets even without including them all in the mnemonic. The mnemonic is for the first 9 planets, just like you only remember the first few digits of pi.

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                                        Ceres is between Mars and Jupiter.

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                                          What are your thoughts on Ceres?

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                                          There's not clearing your orbit, and then there's whatever Ceres is doing.

                                          Typical lazy Beltalowda.

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