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Landlord Raises Rent to Cover the Cost of Never Doing Anything

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    #19

    We already do. Nearly every city in america has some form of a housing authority for the inpoverish and the application list for them extends for years because we dont invest more into them.

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      The problem here, is a house is not a natural product of the earth. It takes work and investment to keep it from becoming a pile of rubble.

      That being said, I've had a lot of shitty landlords in my life, and a few very good ones. I think the overall problem is the "efficiency" of capitalism here. Profit seeking from landlords means doing the least and charging the most. Corporate landlords have a responsibility to their investors to generate as much revenue as possible. (See Blackrock suing United for giving people back to much of their own money for healthcare). Like healthcare, this system clearly needs and overhaul in the US.

      We should push for an unfilled housing penalty that is tied to the rate being charged for the unit. This creates a market pressure for landlords to lower prices while keeping quality up so current tenants don't leave. The fines paid for empty units go straight into a housing subsidy fund to assist people with affording those rentals.

      I also think we should create laws that reduces or even removes investor's input on how rentals are managed. The first and foremost responsibility of the landlord should be to the paying tenants, and then to the people taking a cut of the profit. Investments are not a guaranteed revenue stream, and the capitalist principles of Risk vs Reward fall apart without the existence of actual risk.

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        The problem here, is a house is not a natural product of the earth. It takes work and investment to keep it from becoming a pile of rubble.

        That being said, I've had a lot of shitty landlords in my life, and a few very good ones. I think the overall problem is the "efficiency" of capitalism here. Profit seeking from landlords means doing the least and charging the most. Corporate landlords have a responsibility to their investors to generate as much revenue as possible. (See Blackrock suing United for giving people back to much of their own money for healthcare). Like healthcare, this system clearly needs and overhaul in the US.

        We should push for an unfilled housing penalty that is tied to the rate being charged for the unit. This creates a market pressure for landlords to lower prices while keeping quality up so current tenants don't leave. The fines paid for empty units go straight into a housing subsidy fund to assist people with affording those rentals.

        I also think we should create laws that reduces or even removes investor's input on how rentals are managed. The first and foremost responsibility of the landlord should be to the paying tenants, and then to the people taking a cut of the profit. Investments are not a guaranteed revenue stream, and the capitalist principles of Risk vs Reward fall apart without the existence of actual risk.

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        Many places use market-rate housing to help balance out the absurd rices charged when landlords get free rein to do whatever the fuck they want. It’s the same as social housing but people hear that word and, based on nothing, lose their shit and NIMBY themselves into higher rents.

        The world’s issues are solvable, we’ve figured out the next several steps at least. The problem is that we can forget the drinking, even getting this horse to water seems next to impossible. You have several answers in front of you and we outnumber the investors by an insane margin, but good luck getting people to stand up for themselves.

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          Landlord wanted to raise rent by another $200 to "keep up with market prices". That was their excuse. To keep up with market prices.

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            I was this way. I don't go crazy with rent, but I've been taking advantage of by EVERY SINGLE TENANT I've ever had. They couldn't pay one month? That's fine. I understand things are hard, just get back to me later the next month. They haven't paid after 3 months? Here's a rental assistance program, I'll help you apply to whatever you need. Okay. You haven't paid or tried to pay in 6 months now, nor have you returned by phone calls, I'm going to have to send you a notice of default and evict you. Okay. Now I'm a scumlord, I guess. And now they clogged all the pipes. Broken every dry wall panel and window, poured antifreeze into my well, and caused significant water damage throughout the house because I'm the bad guy. Cool.

            Another tenant turned the house into a drug den. Another became addicted to opiates after a back injury and lost his job, and stopped paying rent because he needed it for more drugs.

            Like. I get it, no one likes landlords, but my God. Everyone thinks they are entitled to treat your home however they want, and then are shocked when your upset that they don't uphold their end of the bargain or take care of the house.

            Long story short, people on both sides suck.

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            Your story has reminded me of why I'm lollygagging so badly on renovating my house (it's been almost two years now and really should have just taken a few months). I don't really need the rental money and I'm terrified of having to deal with shitty tenants.

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              I was this way. I don't go crazy with rent, but I've been taking advantage of by EVERY SINGLE TENANT I've ever had. They couldn't pay one month? That's fine. I understand things are hard, just get back to me later the next month. They haven't paid after 3 months? Here's a rental assistance program, I'll help you apply to whatever you need. Okay. You haven't paid or tried to pay in 6 months now, nor have you returned by phone calls, I'm going to have to send you a notice of default and evict you. Okay. Now I'm a scumlord, I guess. And now they clogged all the pipes. Broken every dry wall panel and window, poured antifreeze into my well, and caused significant water damage throughout the house because I'm the bad guy. Cool.

              Another tenant turned the house into a drug den. Another became addicted to opiates after a back injury and lost his job, and stopped paying rent because he needed it for more drugs.

              Like. I get it, no one likes landlords, but my God. Everyone thinks they are entitled to treat your home however they want, and then are shocked when your upset that they don't uphold their end of the bargain or take care of the house.

              Long story short, people on both sides suck.

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              but I've been taking advantage of by EVERY SINGLE TENANT I've ever had.

              Good, don't hoarded resources and steal from others and you won't suffer the deserved consequences, leech

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                  but I've been taking advantage of by EVERY SINGLE TENANT I've ever had.

                  Good, don't hoarded resources and steal from others and you won't suffer the deserved consequences, leech

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                  You're nothing but a small-minded bigot. You know nothing of my situation, but have already justified it in your head that I'm a bad guy.

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                    You're nothing but a small-minded bigot. You know nothing of my situation, but have already justified it in your head that I'm a bad guy.

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                    You sure put a lot of words to justify being a landlord, which is hte only part that matters, leech, and even you know it

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                      Landlord wanted to raise rent by another $200 to "keep up with market prices". That was their excuse. To keep up with market prices.

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                      In no way defending landlords, but a family friend who inherited another property decided to rent it out. They used a property manager (through an agency) because they had their own full time job.

                      At some point they found out the property manager increased rent a decent amount, while the economy was going in the shitter, without informing them. When they found out they were like "wtf, why'd you do that?" they replied "because the market rate went up and if we don't then it will impact how much we can charge for other properties".

                      He told them to fuck off, fired them and brought the rent back to what it was.

                      I often wonder how many landlords don't even know what's going on with their properties and would probably disagree with what the property managers are doing. Not that that excuses it though...

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                        You sure put a lot of words to justify being a landlord, which is hte only part that matters, leech, and even you know it

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                        I don't have to justify shit to you. I'm sorry you've disillusioned yourself that somehow I'm the enemy because of your inability to buy a house.

                        Your hatred and ignorance makes you no better than any other prejudiced hate group. You know nothing about me, but you think it's okay for people hurt me and my well-being because you already determined I'm some sort of "enemy". Hell, it's how most monsters morally justify committing heinous and even monsterous acts against others that they perceived different to them...or against them.

                        Get help dude. Not sure where you fucked up in life that you think your behavior is acceptable, but seriously mate, you should see someone about it. It's not healthy.

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                          I don't have to justify shit to you. I'm sorry you've disillusioned yourself that somehow I'm the enemy because of your inability to buy a house.

                          Your hatred and ignorance makes you no better than any other prejudiced hate group. You know nothing about me, but you think it's okay for people hurt me and my well-being because you already determined I'm some sort of "enemy". Hell, it's how most monsters morally justify committing heinous and even monsterous acts against others that they perceived different to them...or against them.

                          Get help dude. Not sure where you fucked up in life that you think your behavior is acceptable, but seriously mate, you should see someone about it. It's not healthy.

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                          I don't have to justify shit to you

                          Clearly you think you do, given your paragraphs of unread whinging, you leech. Try to pass your guilt of being a shitty leech in society to me all you want, being a "bigot" isn't possible against leeches like you

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                            I don't have to justify shit to you. I'm sorry you've disillusioned yourself that somehow I'm the enemy because of your inability to buy a house.

                            Your hatred and ignorance makes you no better than any other prejudiced hate group. You know nothing about me, but you think it's okay for people hurt me and my well-being because you already determined I'm some sort of "enemy". Hell, it's how most monsters morally justify committing heinous and even monsterous acts against others that they perceived different to them...or against them.

                            Get help dude. Not sure where you fucked up in life that you think your behavior is acceptable, but seriously mate, you should see someone about it. It's not healthy.

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                            I think people renting to a handful of people are doing a service for those who need temporary housing.

                            I also think anyone who rents to more than 30 tenants should be forced to sell some of their properties.

                            Idk where you fall on that scale.

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                              I don't have to justify shit to you

                              Clearly you think you do, given your paragraphs of unread whinging, you leech. Try to pass your guilt of being a shitty leech in society to me all you want, being a "bigot" isn't possible against leeches like you

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                              Keep being salty. I'm sorry mate, your inability to get ahead isn't my problem, but maybe it's just easier to convince yourself that your just a victim instead of being an unsuccessful bigoted little troll. This is a 'you' problem. I have zero guilt. Literally zero about owning property. If you need to call me a leech to make yourself feel better about being a complete fuck up, have at it. Hope it helps you feel better about yourself.

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                                I think people renting to a handful of people are doing a service for those who need temporary housing.

                                I also think anyone who rents to more than 30 tenants should be forced to sell some of their properties.

                                Idk where you fall on that scale.

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                                I have one house lol. And we kept it because I want to pass it on to family. These guys are just trolls.

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                                  I think all landlords get demonized lately as a meme unfairly. Lots of times property taxes get jacked up, hoa fees, etc. So there is rationale to raise the fees.

                                  But I had this exact phrasing happen to me before I bought my house. "Were raising costs to keep up with market rate." I think its a mistake to do that to reliable, clean, respectful tenants if you dont have to.

                                  But I could see someone doing that to a tenant who leaves trash, doesnt pickup after their dog, or plays loud music.

                                  But landlords that treat it like a business and not just what is necessary are a joke for sure. But most of the hate I see landlords get are blanket and not fair.

                                  Another thing I'll say is corporations owning property only makes this worse. Half the townhouses in my community are owned by corporations and they always get shitty tenants who let their kids trash the place.

                                  We have had incidents where kids pull out bricks from a garden wall and now its going to cost the homeowners 3,000 dollars.

                                  I really think sometimes consideration and neighborly respect is dead. I fucking hate it.

                                  Anyway, that's the end of my rant. Both landlords and renters can be trash.

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                                    Keep being salty. I'm sorry mate, your inability to get ahead isn't my problem, but maybe it's just easier to convince yourself that your just a victim instead of being an unsuccessful bigoted little troll. This is a 'you' problem. I have zero guilt. Literally zero about owning property. If you need to call me a leech to make yourself feel better about being a complete fuck up, have at it. Hope it helps you feel better about yourself.

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                                    your inability to get ahead isn't my problem

                                    It doesn't exist at all, making assumptions to look stupid again bruh

                                    I have zero guilt

                                    Liaaarrrrrr lol

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                                      your inability to get ahead isn't my problem

                                      It doesn't exist at all, making assumptions to look stupid again bruh

                                      I have zero guilt

                                      Liaaarrrrrr lol

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                                      Whatever you have to tell yourself mate. Trolls gonna troll I guess.

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                                        Whatever you have to tell yourself mate. Trolls gonna troll I guess.

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                                        Yeah, I'm gonna keep calling you a shitty leech if you keep trynna defend your pathetic ass, it's pretty simple

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