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      You’ve shed and replaced every atom that you were made of when you were born and many times over since then, are you still that same entity?

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        You’ve shed and replaced every atom that you were made of when you were born and many times over since then, are you still that same entity?

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        Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"

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          Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"

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          It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.

          On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?

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            It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.

            On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?

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            I did, and I remember enjoying it, but that was 10 years ago and I don't remember it that well. Did they have a teleporter?

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              I did, and I remember enjoying it, but that was 10 years ago and I don't remember it that well. Did they have a teleporter?

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              They had one, but it was never existential. They had warp, though, and it put them in the same but different dimension when they used it, so Space Dandy’s cosmic energy warped every time he used it, essentially changing him at a material and energy level but not a conscious one. He has a relationship with an energy entity that decides they can’t be with him because he’s literally not the man they fell in love with, and because he’s used the warp so much his energy is essentially changing the fundamental make-up of the universe.

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                They had one, but it was never existential. They had warp, though, and it put them in the same but different dimension when they used it, so Space Dandy’s cosmic energy warped every time he used it, essentially changing him at a material and energy level but not a conscious one. He has a relationship with an energy entity that decides they can’t be with him because he’s literally not the man they fell in love with, and because he’s used the warp so much his energy is essentially changing the fundamental make-up of the universe.

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                Yeah, I do remember that the series ended with him being given the opportunity to become God (AKA the narrator of the show), and him turning it down, creating a universe without God, which appeared to make everything the same but without narration. I assume that was related to the cosmic energy? Fun idea, but, to bring it back to Theseus, his continued consciousness despite his physical transformation into energy implies the existence of an intangible part of his being (AKA a soul) that continues beyond his human brain. If we ever prove that transporters are teleporting our souls, I'll happily use one. Otherwise, they are 100% suicide booths.

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                  Yeah, I do remember that the series ended with him being given the opportunity to become God (AKA the narrator of the show), and him turning it down, creating a universe without God, which appeared to make everything the same but without narration. I assume that was related to the cosmic energy? Fun idea, but, to bring it back to Theseus, his continued consciousness despite his physical transformation into energy implies the existence of an intangible part of his being (AKA a soul) that continues beyond his human brain. If we ever prove that transporters are teleporting our souls, I'll happily use one. Otherwise, they are 100% suicide booths.

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                  Meh, I don’t think we have souls, I’d take the suicide booth, it would be cathartic. Especially if it does the fix your health issues thing like the Star Trek teleporters do (except the times it would get in the way of the plot, so it just doesn’t. Because.) maybe I could get a functioning thyroid out of it.

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                    Meh, I don’t think we have souls, I’d take the suicide booth, it would be cathartic. Especially if it does the fix your health issues thing like the Star Trek teleporters do (except the times it would get in the way of the plot, so it just doesn’t. Because.) maybe I could get a functioning thyroid out of it.

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                    Uh, you OK? That was a borderline SI statement.

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                      Uh, you OK? That was a borderline SI statement.

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                      Only borderline? I need to work on my delivery.

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