I've hated donald trump since day one but then I saw this and thought....
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I'm not sure what the hostility is for. The very thing the protesters are standing up for is the correct idea of America. The flag should be for real patriots who believe in the Constitution, not Trump and his insurrectionist ilk.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This. Exactly. Why burn the US flag and fly another nations flag when you're supposedly 'fighting for American democracy'? It doesn't make sense, and the optics aren't good.
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protect democracy
Are they trying to protect democracy, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
"Are these anti-Nazi protestors holding up a Star of David trying to protect democracy in Germany, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?"
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"Are these anti-Nazi protestors holding up a Star of David trying to protect democracy in Germany, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?"
You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
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protect democracy
Are they trying to protect democracy, or are they just trying to keep their family from being deported?
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
How is protesting for their family and neighbors (weird you left that one out, you don’t have to be related to someone kidnapped to protest) over having their Constitutional rights violated not protecting democracy?
Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
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How is protesting for their family and neighbors (weird you left that one out, you don’t have to be related to someone kidnapped to protest) over having their Constitutional rights violated not protecting democracy?
Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
LOL WUT? What in earthly green fuck are you on about now? Nobody ever claimed this, so not only are you straw-manning NOT saying something, you're ALSO straw-manning words that were never said in the first place.
You build up being the victim because I didn't include some special case that you wanted me to, and then pretend that I'm some righty? lol - You truly are pathetic.
The point is that I'm pretty sure these people more simply don't give 2 shits about "Due process" or any of the plethora of other dipshit, dumbass, illegal as fuck, traitorous shit that DJT is doing -- and pretty much only care about deportations.
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
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Ummm guys I'm not american can someone what the heck is going on?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The federal agency ICE is completely captured by fascists. They are arbitrarily staging immigration crackdowns using hastily deputized agents who arrest people off the street while hiding their identity. They came to Los Angeles, a fervently anti-fascist area. It triggered massive but mostly peaceful protests, and some protestors wave Mexican flags like OP's picture.
Trump is using the protests as a pretext to claim this is an invasion, so he can mobilize the federal military against citizens. The protests are getting more chaotic (by design, since military presence is exacerbating tensions), which causes the police violence to increase, in a vicious cycle.
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Also, touching a Mexican flag doesn’t actually revoke your citizenship or residency, regardless of what Fox News says.
LOL WUT? What in earthly green fuck are you on about now? Nobody ever claimed this, so not only are you straw-manning NOT saying something, you're ALSO straw-manning words that were never said in the first place.
You build up being the victim because I didn't include some special case that you wanted me to, and then pretend that I'm some righty? lol - You truly are pathetic.
The point is that I'm pretty sure these people more simply don't give 2 shits about "Due process" or any of the plethora of other dipshit, dumbass, illegal as fuck, traitorous shit that DJT is doing -- and pretty much only care about deportations.
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
Do you actually need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens can hold a Mexican flag in protest?
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
Then go fucking do it instead of being a keyboard warrior criticizing the people actually doing shit. Jealousy’s an ugly color.
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I don't see why someone waving the Mexican flag, would be fighting for American democracy...
Do you actually need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens can hold a Mexican flag in protest?
If you care about America, your country, and fighting Fascism, then you're flying a US flag, and taking that symbol back.
Then go fucking do it instead of being a keyboard warrior criticizing the people actually doing shit. Jealousy’s an ugly color.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Do you need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens (Are they? You can't tell that from a picture.) holding Mexican flags in protest, don't give 2 shits about "saving American Democracy", and care more about deportations only?
I don't see Mexican flags at "No Kings" protests. You know - The ones that are actually focused on American Democracy. I see American flags. Pride flags. etc. -- Through all of these LA protest pictures, I see nothing but the flag of a foreign country...which I am saying plays into the story that Republicans are telling the American people.
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Do you need me to lead you around by the nose and explain to you that American citizens (Are they? You can't tell that from a picture.) holding Mexican flags in protest, don't give 2 shits about "saving American Democracy", and care more about deportations only?
I don't see Mexican flags at "No Kings" protests. You know - The ones that are actually focused on American Democracy. I see American flags. Pride flags. etc. -- Through all of these LA protest pictures, I see nothing but the flag of a foreign country...which I am saying plays into the story that Republicans are telling the American people.
Fascinating you could determine from the picture that all of the thousands of people who showed up only care about deportations.
Thankfully the people of LA are’t stupid enough to fall for this bullshit. We see our neighbors with Mexican flags every day, it doesn’t make them belong here any less.
Through all of these LA protest pictures, I see nothing but the flag of a foreign country...
Babe you already did this. Scroll up and follow the links this time.
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Fascinating you could determine from the picture that all of the thousands of people who showed up only care about deportations.
Thankfully the people of LA are’t stupid enough to fall for this bullshit. We see our neighbors with Mexican flags every day, it doesn’t make them belong here any less.
Through all of these LA protest pictures, I see nothing but the flag of a foreign country...
Babe you already did this. Scroll up and follow the links this time.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]We see our neighbors with Mexican flags every day, it doesn’t make them belong here any less.
Never made such a claim. You're so caught up in thinking I'm an enemy that you knee-jerk into all sorts of accusations and false claims. I'm saying that it's bad for convincing the American public that you're on the right side of things. Other Americans seeing the national guard coming down on people flying American flags, is bad optics for DJT. Seeing them coming down on people flying nothing but Mexican flags, looks good to the mostly racist American populace. That's literally the only thing I'm saying.
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We see our neighbors with Mexican flags every day, it doesn’t make them belong here any less.
Never made such a claim. You're so caught up in thinking I'm an enemy that you knee-jerk into all sorts of accusations and false claims. I'm saying that it's bad for convincing the American public that you're on the right side of things. Other Americans seeing the national guard coming down on people flying American flags, is bad optics for DJT. Seeing them coming down on people flying nothing but Mexican flags, looks good to the mostly racist American populace. That's literally the only thing I'm saying.
Yeah, you’re not saying it. You just think no Mexican Americans, etc should show up with Mexican flags. Oh, also more American flags. What else to make the protest perfect so that no rightoid can say anything bad about it? Better get it all out here so the people can do everything perfectly to your standards.
Talk is cheap and the criticisms of anyone not at the protests are worthless.
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Yeah, you’re not saying it. You just think no Mexican Americans, etc should show up with Mexican flags. Oh, also more American flags. What else to make the protest perfect so that no rightoid can say anything bad about it? Better get it all out here so the people can do everything perfectly to your standards.
Talk is cheap and the criticisms of anyone not at the protests are worthless.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]If I don't say it, then I am not saying it. Men don't pull that bullshit. There's no undertones here, there's no reading between the lines. There IS no between the lines. I didn't say it, so stop fucking saying that's what I mean, because I don't. You don't get to dictate what my words mean.
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You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
indeed.No they don't. We don't have half of the nationalist zeal you guys sport. Please refrain from talking about topics you do not know shit about.
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You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
indeed.Germans against Nazis wouldn't use the German flag. If you brought one to the protest you'd probably be considered an intruder from the Nazi side
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You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
indeed.You do know that when Germans use the German flag when protesting they commonly support Nazis causes, right?
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The federal agency ICE is completely captured by fascists. They are arbitrarily staging immigration crackdowns using hastily deputized agents who arrest people off the street while hiding their identity. They came to Los Angeles, a fervently anti-fascist area. It triggered massive but mostly peaceful protests, and some protestors wave Mexican flags like OP's picture.
Trump is using the protests as a pretext to claim this is an invasion, so he can mobilize the federal military against citizens. The protests are getting more chaotic (by design, since military presence is exacerbating tensions), which causes the police violence to increase, in a vicious cycle.
Thank you. I have no idea what happened to LA this past few days, i know there's a protest and there's police violence against protestors and there's chaos, beyond that i'm very much in the dark.
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This is populist violence and outrage that would be better directed in an organised bus-to-washington program that would only attract the politically committed (and ideally more disciplined).
They could be briefed on the bus.
That bus would have its brake lines cut before Trump's first diaper change.
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You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
indeed.wrote on last edited by [email protected]Really? Which Protests do you mean? The vast majority of German flags I saw on anti Nazi demos in Germany had been mounted to Buildings or the hands of some Nazi Idiot at the counterprotest.
Going one step towards the center of the political spectrum from the firmly left learning anti Nazi Demos, there are the anti AFD Demos which also attract(ed) people with far more moderate centrist political views than the average Antifa member, thus being more likely to support the idea of the state of Germany in its current form.
Still, most flags you'd see were for pride / lgbtq+ or political organisations.You might see a German flag from time to time but i think it's just plain wrong to call it common.
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You do know that when Germans protest against Nazis they commonly use the German flag, right?
indeed.wrote on last edited by [email protected]You really have no clue how much American "patriotism" is looked down upon on this side of the pool, do you? Nationalism is a nazi thing, no one who opposes nazis here would use a national flag during a protest.
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Ummm guys I'm not american can someone what the heck is going on?
Trump is using the military to occupy a city that hates him. He wants to deport a lot of people, but the city isn't having it so protests have emerged.
From what I've seen, four self driving taxies was burned (the car on the image) by protestors, while the police intentionally shot a news reporter, used a horse to trample a detained protestor, and has deployed marines to the streets.
