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This is a joke right? (Xbox ROG Ally)

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  • vinesnfluff@pawb.socialV [email protected]

    Again

    COMPARED TO CONSOLES? That's basically paradise.

    Modern, unhacked and unmodded Consoles are:

    1. Completely locked down, not only do they not let you install applications not approved by the manufacturer, in reality you can ONLY buy them from the manufacturer and you pay a hefty tax for that "privilege".

    2. Feeding you ads and upsell attempts whenever you turn them on, as the UI has basically been redesigned to try to sell you more shit first and make getting to your actual games take a few extra steps

    3. Any undesired feature in a console's OS is something you just have to accept and move on. Powerusers killing Windows bloat with third party tools is a time-honoured tradition that goes back to Windows 3.11

    I'm not saying Windows is good.

    I'm saying that for someone coming from a PlayStation or a traditional XBoXSeXxxx (I love making jokes out of this name), this whitelabelled ROG Ally machine would feel like finally being able to breathe. Just for the fact that you can use more than one storefront and install applications from wherever you want.

    Let me put it this way:

    Linux is an anarchist commune. True freedom.

    Windows is an American Style Capitalist Republic. Freedom*********** with a thousand asterisks more. BUT for someone coming from the North Korea that is playing on consoles (or using an iOS mobile device or...), it DOES feel like finally breathing free.

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    Also, compared to something like the Switch? I don't see MS remotely bricking these devices if you run "homebrew" on them.

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      and copilot on a cheap handheld that cannot do anything except record you 24/7 and send it off to MS servers?

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      Less good

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      • K [email protected]

        That's wierd, works well enough for me? It's called guide button chord layout.

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        No changes to that are saved.

        And it still doesn't let you rebind the Steam or ... buttons themselves.

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        • xavier666@lemm.eeX [email protected]

          As per Microsoft, they apparently saved 2 GBs of RAM by preventing productivity apps (bloat) from loading in their Big Picture mode. Now, it's another entirely different thing about how they are handling CPU/VRAM for the games. Let's see how that goes.

          There was a Youtuber who showed that Windows is bloated, not because of background apps, but because of not using CPU properly (incorrect governor settings). The Youtuber used a script to set it right and windows got a boost in battery life. This kind of makes sense because I've seen none of the "bloat-free" Windows ISOs provide a significant performance boost over the standard OS.

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          Please source me on this!

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            Please source me on this!

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            Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzkKL-axCM

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              Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzkKL-axCM

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              Thank you!

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              • xavier666@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                There's apparently a chunk of gamers who can't leave Windows because of GamePass. However, I don't know whether it's a significant portion.

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                I am more thinking of the Valorant, League, Call of Duty, Fortnite, etc... players. Which are a majority of pc gamers.

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                • fenrasulfr@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                  I am more thinking of the Valorant, League, Call of Duty, Fortnite, etc... players. Which are a majority of pc gamers.

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                  There are different clusters of users who don't/can't leave Windows.

                  • Don't want to learn another OS at all (They are content with the Windows experience)
                  • Gamepass users. They enjoy the Netflix model of getting free games
                  • Multiplayer (with anti-cheat) gamers
                  • Don't want to leave the Adobe suite/
                  • Uses programs which don't have Linux equivalent

                  The Linux community has to understand that some of these groups cannot be moved to Linux no matter how much you improve the Linux experience.

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                    That's a typo, it's supposed to be an R in the middle there, not an F

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                      Shouldn't it be "Freedom From” ?

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                        penny arcade? Wow, are they even still around? I havent seen anyone talk about or reference them for..god.. 10 years?

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                          Can't you map Alt-Tab to one of the back buttons? Or does that not work in desktop mode?

                          EDIT: Or if that doesn't work through steam then is there gamepad software in KDE or the Software Centre that lets the desktop map gamepad buttons?

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                          I've had mixed results doing this. Not really sure why

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                          • a_random_idiot@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                            penny arcade? Wow, are they even still around? I havent seen anyone talk about or reference them for..god.. 10 years?

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                            Penny Arcade Expo is one of the biggest gaming conventions in America (and Aus) so I'd say yeah. I think they still make the comic too.

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                              I mean, the Zune is fucking amazing.

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                              FM radio when you wanted it, big color screen that you could watch actual videos on at a solid playback that you could do video out to a TV with. WiFi song sharing. Great playback and no fingerprints in my semitransparent case that glows.

                              Zune was amazing.

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                                Oh dear god it is apparently serious.

                                https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/06/08/xbox-handheld-rog-ally-x-games-showcase/

                                Any guesses for MSRP?

                                $1200 for the X variant?

                                $600?

                                Will MSFT bet the farm, take the upfront loss on the unit, and try to convince everyone this is both their next handheld and their next mainline living room console at the same time?

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                                I'm so hoping Microsoft eats some of the cost of this and makes it a reasonable price. Think of the awesomeness of $600-700 handheld console that can be much more easily modded than the switch 2.

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                                  I'm so hoping Microsoft eats some of the cost of this and makes it a reasonable price. Think of the awesomeness of $600-700 handheld console that can be much more easily modded than the switch 2.

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                                  I would love for that to be the case as well... but it wouldn't make any sense for MSFT to do the first part, and I strongly suspect they do not have the finances to do the second part.

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                                    I would love for that to be the case as well... but it wouldn't make any sense for MSFT to do the first part, and I strongly suspect they do not have the finances to do the second part.

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                                    They used to lower the price of Xboxes/?Xbeexes? lower than actual profit margins because they could get more in game sales.

                                    I think the finances are no longer there though to do that but I think it would inspire people to get the game pass more if they did.

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                                      penny arcade? Wow, are they even still around? I havent seen anyone talk about or reference them for..god.. 10 years?

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                                      It's still around, but it hasn't been funny for a long-ass time.

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                                        "Freedom of Windows" "Power of Xbox" Good stuff. We should make some more.
                                        "From a brand you can trust"
                                        "Pro gamers choose ... "
                                        "Powered by Copilot and Game pass"

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                                        "Relive past game moments with recall" "Totally not going to be dropped in 3 years"

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                                        • xavier666@lemm.eeX [email protected]

                                          There are different clusters of users who don't/can't leave Windows.

                                          • Don't want to learn another OS at all (They are content with the Windows experience)
                                          • Gamepass users. They enjoy the Netflix model of getting free games
                                          • Multiplayer (with anti-cheat) gamers
                                          • Don't want to leave the Adobe suite/
                                          • Uses programs which don't have Linux equivalent

                                          The Linux community has to understand that some of these groups cannot be moved to Linux no matter how much you improve the Linux experience.

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                                          I am talking for handhelds which are treated as consoles so the underlying os or gui makes no difference. Unless it stops you from playing the game you like.

                                          No one should tell you to leave an os if it works for you.

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