Actually right leaning communities?
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Hey guys one of the things I miss about reddit is communities like r/Conservative or r/conspiracy, not because I agree with really anything they say there, but because it's a challenge for me.
It's really easy to say "no you're dumb and wrong", but I like going down rabbit holes so I will take the bat shit insane stuff they say and find actual sources to refute them. I know it won't actually change any minds but it's fun for me.
I know theres @[email protected] but that is basically just non-conservatives making fun of conservatives. And I have not been able to find any good conspiracy theory communities on Lemmy at all.
Any advice?
I must admit I do miss r/conspiracy, the stupidity there was something to behold.
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Fuck off
the tolerant left, right here on display for everyone.
I actually (as a left leaning Canadian) seek out conservative/libertarian/right-leaning news sources because I believe it's important to take in a wide variety of information, especially from sources which I might not agree with. There is a lot you can learn from anyone not on the extremes.
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There's probably some, but keep in mind that your instance has to be federated with them and lemmy.world generally defederates a lot of the more extreme instances (plus a few benign but potentially illegal instances, since the admins don't want legal trouble.)
That said, Lemmy historically is rather extreme "left" (if you can call it that lol) so much so that the .ml of lemmy.ml stands for Marxist-Leninst. That starting point kinda makes the rest of us the conservatives of the community.
If you want to feel challenged, look into who we defederate from. Hexbear, lemmygrad, beehaw, etc. I'm sure those rabbit holes will be new to you, although heaven help you lol
wrote last edited by [email protected]That starting point kinda makes the rest of us the conservatives of the community.
It makes the rest of us the liberals, certainly. But a lot of the turf battles between .world and .ml tend to be on US political orthodoxy running up against any other country's reported histories. People getting sucked back into the argument over whether the Hungarian Revolt of 1956 was worth defending, for instance, is the baseline for what defines a "Tankie" (evil Khruschevist authoritarian villains) versus "A rational centrist" (not all CIA-backed color revolutions are bad, people!)
So it's less a question of right versus left and more a question of nationalism versus internationalism.
If you want to feel challenged, look into who we defederate from.
One of the benefits of .world is that admins generally don't bother outright banning anyone for their political views, even when they're taken as "extreme". You can head over to these other sites, but don't expect to post very long before you're given the boot.
Admittedly, Reddit's political subs were much the same. Easiest thing in the world is to say something on a political sub of any flavor that will get you banned, whether its /r/progressive or /r/libertarian. If that's the kind of sub someone is looking for...
But I don't really see them as challenging so much as insular. Structurally closed communities where appealing to the whims of the moderators is more important than any actual ideological tenant.
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Hey guys one of the things I miss about reddit is communities like r/Conservative or r/conspiracy, not because I agree with really anything they say there, but because it's a challenge for me.
It's really easy to say "no you're dumb and wrong", but I like going down rabbit holes so I will take the bat shit insane stuff they say and find actual sources to refute them. I know it won't actually change any minds but it's fun for me.
I know theres @[email protected] but that is basically just non-conservatives making fun of conservatives. And I have not been able to find any good conspiracy theory communities on Lemmy at all.
Any advice?
There were some, but as others have said, they aren't popular around here. There was one instance but I think they moved to nostr?
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There's probably some, but keep in mind that your instance has to be federated with them and lemmy.world generally defederates a lot of the more extreme instances (plus a few benign but potentially illegal instances, since the admins don't want legal trouble.)
That said, Lemmy historically is rather extreme "left" (if you can call it that lol) so much so that the .ml of lemmy.ml stands for Marxist-Leninst. That starting point kinda makes the rest of us the conservatives of the community.
If you want to feel challenged, look into who we defederate from. Hexbear, lemmygrad, beehaw, etc. I'm sure those rabbit holes will be new to you, although heaven help you lol
Too many overtly emotional blue haired folk in moderating positions there for most sane people to comfortably express themselves, polluting what could be great online spaces... But a little folly has always destroyed a great deal of good.
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I might be able to show you, but what do you mean by conservative?
Not OP, but interested in right-leaning communities that aren't pants-on-head insane, just like I am interested in left-leaning communities with a similar constraint. /r/conservative generally isn't bad (I find they tend to be a LOT more level headed than /r/politics, for example) but things like /r/the_donald or whatever it was called is way too out there for my tastes.
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Not OP, but interested in right-leaning communities that aren't pants-on-head insane, just like I am interested in left-leaning communities with a similar constraint. /r/conservative generally isn't bad (I find they tend to be a LOT more level headed than /r/politics, for example) but things like /r/the_donald or whatever it was called is way too out there for my tastes.
But what do you mean by "conservative"?! White nationalist? Pro capitalist? Neoliberal?
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But what do you mean by "conservative"?! White nationalist? Pro capitalist? Neoliberal?
None of the above really; I'd consider those more far-right and not at all interested in. I'm talking about people aligned with ideas like smaller government, government accountability (particularly with respect to spending), the combination of personal responsibility and freedoms, etc.
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I might be able to show you, but what do you mean by conservative?
Like I said, I miss r/Conservative and r/conspiracy the most from reddit
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Like I said, I miss r/Conservative and r/conspiracy the most from reddit
wrote last edited by [email protected]Maybe I'll find us a conspiracy little e-hole, I miss it too. π₯²
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Too many overtly emotional blue haired folk in moderating positions there for most sane people to comfortably express themselves, polluting what could be great online spaces... But a little folly has always destroyed a great deal of good.
That's funnier than it is ironic and tragic, lol.
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Ha, good luck. They don't care about facts. There's some 2 dozen accounts run by maybe 2 or 3 people tops and they're not really accepting outside input.
Yeah I'm aware, it's more of an exercise in research for me. They send me down some crazy rabbit holes and it's just super interesting a lot of the time.
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the tolerant left, right here on display for everyone.
I actually (as a left leaning Canadian) seek out conservative/libertarian/right-leaning news sources because I believe it's important to take in a wide variety of information, especially from sources which I might not agree with. There is a lot you can learn from anyone not on the extremes.
I guess my comment was deleted. No you don't. The comments are all similar in this thread. This is clearly some conservative bullshit, or a moronic attempt at a psy-op. I repeat. Fuck off weirdos.
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Yeah I'm aware, it's more of an exercise in research for me. They send me down some crazy rabbit holes and it's just super interesting a lot of the time.
The only thing I find them useful for is testing my patience.
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Hey guys one of the things I miss about reddit is communities like r/Conservative or r/conspiracy, not because I agree with really anything they say there, but because it's a challenge for me.
It's really easy to say "no you're dumb and wrong", but I like going down rabbit holes so I will take the bat shit insane stuff they say and find actual sources to refute them. I know it won't actually change any minds but it's fun for me.
I know theres @[email protected] but that is basically just non-conservatives making fun of conservatives. And I have not been able to find any good conspiracy theory communities on Lemmy at all.
Any advice?
Lemmy.usatoday or whatever is a conservative instance
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The problem is that it gets really hard to find non-extreme right people willing to post, at least in the states. I refuse to recognize anyone who voted for Trump as being non-extreme, and given Trump's historic positions, the actual quotable things he said during his campaign, and his subsequent actions, by voting Republican in the last US election they sat down at the table with fascists.
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as a left leaning Canadian
"As a left leaning nazi"
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None of the above really; I'd consider those more far-right and not at all interested in. I'm talking about people aligned with ideas like smaller government, government accountability (particularly with respect to spending), the combination of personal responsibility and freedoms, etc.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Conservative politics hasn't meant any of that for a very long time. I think you need to find a new term to use if you want to be able to not have to explain this every time you ask for conservative communities to hang around in.
Also, none of that is necessarily right leaning (anarchy covers very similar ground, but obviously for extremely different reasons), so it doesn't entirely answer the question of what kind of right leaning you are looking for.
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as a left leaning Canadian
"As a left leaning nazi"
Enjoy your echo chamber.
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The problem is that it gets really hard to find non-extreme right people willing to post, at least in the states. I refuse to recognize anyone who voted for Trump as being non-extreme, and given Trump's historic positions, the actual quotable things he said during his campaign, and his subsequent actions, by voting Republican in the last US election they sat down at the table with fascists.
I agree: itβs extremely difficult to find what I would call the βmiddle 80%β since the only people who tend to get all the media attention are the extremes at both ends who are hell bent on maintaining their airtime with ever more insane stunts.
I donβt understand how people
can vote for someone who did such a piss poor job his first time around, but then again my province elected a drug dealer who ran with literally no election platform whatsoever and won, twice. It boggles the mind. Populism is a cancer.
