Greta Thunberg departs Israel on flight to Paris after detention aboard aid ship
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That will give them an excuse to just bomb them
there was one in 2010 where the bomb and killed people
Six civilian ships of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla were raided by Israel on 31 May 2010 in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea. Nine of the flotilla passengers were killed during the raid, with thirty wounded (including one who later died of his wounds).[1][2] Ten Israeli soldiers were wounded, one seriously. The exact sequence of events is contested, in part due to the IDF's confiscation of the passengers' photographic evidence.[3] The flotilla, organized by the Free Gaza Movement and the Turkish Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief (İHH), was carrying humanitarian aid and construction materials, intending to break the Israeli naval blockade of the Gaza Strip.
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Killed. The word you're looking for is "killed".
This isn't tiktok, we can use big boy language here.
Sorry. I didn’t wanna risk getting banned. But then this isn’t Reddit, either so I’m probably safe. I’ll fix it.
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They put her on a plane to Paris yesterday.
Yes, this is if she gets back on the boat again
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They declared war, they are allowed to enct vlockades according to international law.
Enact blockades in international waters?
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Probably wanted to get her gone fast before one of the many psychopaths in their army got to her and created an incident they'd have to transparently lie about, then ignore. It's tough being the most moral army in the world.
100%
She is too high profile to have around the grunts, also is a very vocal woman who isn't afraid to upset authority. One pissed off murderer that feels slighted ends up doing something to her and that's a mountain which can't be made into a mole hill like they have been doing.
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She wasn't internationally famous.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This. While those deaths were notable and tragic, they weren't "celebrity deaths", which pains me to even say, but it is true.
Greta is essentially an international celebrity at this point, not just some noteworthy activist. Her death would be much more noticeable throughout the modern zeitgeist than a random activist who happened to be American.
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Learn something new, thanks.
Yup. The only reason Greta isn't dead or held captive is because of her celebrity status.
If she was just another no-name activist, she wouldn't be on that plane to Paris.
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Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?
Ooh check out the genocide apologist, making a super strong argument about how just and honorable Israel is. So intelligent and brave! You should get a sticker from Bibi to put on your shirt.
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I know it's stupid, but I have this nagging thought that they should use a narco sub next time.
Cute idea. But unfortunately not practical. For something as valuable/kg as cocaine, you can go to the trouble of using a narco sub. But there's zero chance such a sub could practically carry cheap bulky goods like flour, rice, etc.
You might be able to use them to smuggle in medicines though.
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EDIT: Kidnapping. The word you're ignoring in the title is kidnapping.
When the UN doesn’t stop the Israeli’s from declaring it a conflict zone. It’s technically not kidnapping. Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?
Right here. I would have never in a million years have imagined that they would just let her go. This is an extremely surprising turn of events.
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EDIT: Kidnapping. The word you're ignoring in the title is kidnapping.
Yeah it's real typical for kidnappings to be publicly known, announced in advance and then the victim safetly returned promptly, entirely unharmed. Im sure you can fram it as a kidnapping with some backflips, but you just look like a whiny child.
She was captured and held unlawfully sure, but if it was actually for humanitarian aid and not self publicity, i might have some sympathy. -
"It's not safe to sail into an active genocide."
but someone must
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Yeah it's real typical for kidnappings to be publicly known, announced in advance and then the victim safetly returned promptly, entirely unharmed. Im sure you can fram it as a kidnapping with some backflips, but you just look like a whiny child.
She was captured and held unlawfully sure, but if it was actually for humanitarian aid and not self publicity, i might have some sympathy.So if somali pirates would just take the ship and send the crew back home it would all be good?
You're having an interesting opinion here.
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Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?
Public attention from them and others is why she’s being gently handled. You should thank those who raised the alarm on her behalf, not Israel.
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So if somali pirates would just take the ship and send the crew back home it would all be good?
You're having an interesting opinion here.
Inequivalent.
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When the UN doesn’t stop the Israeli’s from declaring it a conflict zone. It’s technically not kidnapping. Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
No. They never entered anywhere Israel is legally allowed to exclude even in war It being full of aid and verifiable non combatants.
It's kidnapping.
Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Your example is also kidnapping but even excluding that bit of nuance the key word is "in" they never entered territorial waters and thus were never "in" Israel or Palestine. Israel can declare 1500mi of the coast of Somalia an exclusion zone then kidnap people there and that would make just as much sense in a legal view.
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Cute idea. But unfortunately not practical. For something as valuable/kg as cocaine, you can go to the trouble of using a narco sub. But there's zero chance such a sub could practically carry cheap bulky goods like flour, rice, etc.
You might be able to use them to smuggle in medicines though.
So then don't carry flour and rice, go with pemmican or something similar, high protein, high caloric, high density food.
A brick of pemmican is better than nothing, which is what they currently have.
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No. They never entered anywhere Israel is legally allowed to exclude even in war It being full of aid and verifiable non combatants.
It's kidnapping.
Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Your example is also kidnapping but even excluding that bit of nuance the key word is "in" they never entered territorial waters and thus were never "in" Israel or Palestine. Israel can declare 1500mi of the coast of Somalia an exclusion zone then kidnap people there and that would make just as much sense in a legal view.
Gaza is under a declared blockade, Maritime Law (the oldest of international law) allows detaining any ship bound for a blockaded port. It's really cut and dry, they very publicly declared they were bound for a blockaded port. It's not like Israel boarded a ship that just happened to be in the area, these freedom flotilla yahoos very publicly declared they were bound for Gaza, which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.
International law is an agreement between nations and doesn't actually restrict nations from doing things that will hurt your feelings. You're going down the sovcit path when you pretend international law is whatever you want it to be.
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Yeah it's real typical for kidnappings to be publicly known, announced in advance and then the victim safetly returned promptly, entirely unharmed. Im sure you can fram it as a kidnapping with some backflips, but you just look like a whiny child.
She was captured and held unlawfully sure, but if it was actually for humanitarian aid and not self publicity, i might have some sympathy.Israel does not feel a need to hide their crimes because they believe any action they take is righteous because they are doing it and any action their enemies take is evil because they are doing it
