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  • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

    So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

    I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

    I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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    I can't ever remember seeing a kid wearing them here in the UK but my grandma once said she used "reins" on my dad and his siblings which would have been from late 1960s to late 1970s.

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    • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

      So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

      I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

      I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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      My guess is that the American working system has drained so much from their working population that leashes are required because they have no energy left to pay full attention to their children.

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        I saw a gif around here some time ago. A woman was walking with their kids. When the walked passed a car ready to unpark the kid ducked in front of it. No warning, no logic, just suicide attempt.

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          Yea, I don't get it. Reading this thread, the people seem insane to me. Yet they are all 100% up arrows.

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          It's fuckin wild. I used to manage a toys department in an American burger big box store in a small town so I saw some shit. It's either parents with kids on leashes or threatening them or hitting them in the aisle, my fellow Americans often treat their kids like shit, the image of the overindulgent parent isn't really what you see around. Kids get treated like this and grow up to be adults who don't break the cycle.

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            “This leash demeans us both”

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            "This leash isn't for their protection, it is for your protection"

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            • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

              So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

              I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

              I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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              I've seen one that basically is a top with a string coming from the back. I get it, kids are stupid and distractible

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              • missjinx@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                Do you remember Harambe?!!! Harambe died for your pride! If that boy was in a leasg he would still be here and the world would be a better place. /s but not really?!

                Seriously now, leashing a kid is not a bad thing. Young kids will run faster than light and human parents can avoid accidents, make sure the kid is is around.and shop without losing their minds. Let's normalize it. If you use a necklace, is that a collar? No. Leave moms alone

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                That kid got into a gorilla enclosure. He could have figured out the clasp on a leash.

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                  My guess is that the American working system has drained so much from their working population that leashes are required because they have no energy left to pay full attention to their children.

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                  That, and streets are deadly hellscapes over there a lot of the time. Driving laws are barely enforced and infrastructure is almost like it's intended to kill anyone who dares to exist outside a car.

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                  • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

                    So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

                    I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

                    I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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                    I’ve seen it once in Denmark actually. But it was a severely mentally challenged kid on a train station where the parents had them in a leash. Looked weird when you’re not used to it, but I guess I can understand that one use case.

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                      I can't ever remember seeing a kid wearing them here in the UK but my grandma once said she used "reins" on my dad and his siblings which would have been from late 1960s to late 1970s.

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                      Toddlers reins are super useful if they don't want to go in a push chair and won't hold hands.

                      They are for toddlers freedom, not control.

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                        My mom would just walk away as if she didn't even have a kid with her. The panic and fear of losing my mom and having to find her again in a huge ass grocery store is what eventually kept me close from some point on

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                        Nowadays that mom would get arrested for neglect or some bullshit.

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                          Some of you are so desperately alone and this post shows why.

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                            That, and streets are deadly hellscapes over there a lot of the time. Driving laws are barely enforced and infrastructure is almost like it's intended to kill anyone who dares to exist outside a car.

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                            Out of 75 million kids 200 per year are killed by vehicles. This is roughly on par, albeit slightly higher than top EU countries.

                            People rightfully look at you like you're stupid when you make these statements that have nothing to do with reality. Get off the internet.


                            Child Pedestrian Fatalities per Million Children (under 15)

                            Country / Region Est. Fatalities/Year Child Pop. (0–14) Fatalities per Million

                            United States ~225 ~61 million ~3.7
                            United Kingdom ~22 ~11.5 million ~1.9
                            Canada ~12 ~6 million ~2.0
                            Australia ~11 ~4.8 million ~2.3
                            Germany ~20 ~11 million ~1.8
                            France ~18 ~11 million ~1.6
                            Japan ~18 ~15 million ~1.2
                            India ~3,000 (est.) ~360 million ~8.3
                            Brazil ~450 ~50 million ~9.0
                            European Union (EU-27) ~140–160 ~72 million ~2.0

                            Total EU child population (0–14): ~72 million

                            Result: ~2.1 deaths per million children


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                              Probably went away and made a comeback. I came out in '92 and didn't see a leash kid until around 2010. Then suddenly, leash kids everywhere.

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                              Nope. Your observations are simply not representative of the reality.

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                              • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

                                So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

                                I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

                                I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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                                They used to be quite common in the UK back in the 80s. Stops kids running into busy roads, and you can also use it to hold up an unsteady toddler.

                                Obviously you don't use them on like eight year olds.

                                You don't see them much any more.

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                                  Out of 75 million kids 200 per year are killed by vehicles. This is roughly on par, albeit slightly higher than top EU countries.

                                  People rightfully look at you like you're stupid when you make these statements that have nothing to do with reality. Get off the internet.


                                  Child Pedestrian Fatalities per Million Children (under 15)

                                  Country / Region Est. Fatalities/Year Child Pop. (0–14) Fatalities per Million

                                  United States ~225 ~61 million ~3.7
                                  United Kingdom ~22 ~11.5 million ~1.9
                                  Canada ~12 ~6 million ~2.0
                                  Australia ~11 ~4.8 million ~2.3
                                  Germany ~20 ~11 million ~1.8
                                  France ~18 ~11 million ~1.6
                                  Japan ~18 ~15 million ~1.2
                                  India ~3,000 (est.) ~360 million ~8.3
                                  Brazil ~450 ~50 million ~9.0
                                  European Union (EU-27) ~140–160 ~72 million ~2.0

                                  Total EU child population (0–14): ~72 million

                                  Result: ~2.1 deaths per million children


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                                  I'm not saying more kids die in traffic over there.
                                  I'm saying people have to be, and are, way more careful to keep their kids away from traffic.

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                                    I can't ever remember seeing a kid wearing them here in the UK but my grandma once said she used "reins" on my dad and his siblings which would have been from late 1960s to late 1970s.

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                                    Me and my sister definitely had them in the early 80s. Kids are stupid, and the alternative is you strap them in a buggy if they can't be trusted to walk.

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                                    • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

                                      So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

                                      I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

                                      I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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                                      I'm 53 and have seen them used on different continents. My mom used one on me in Europe when we visited when I was two years old. You are completely wrong on all fronts with your comment. Have a good day.

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                                        I'm 53 and have seen them used on different continents. My mom used one on me in Europe when we visited when I was two years old. You are completely wrong on all fronts with your comment. Have a good day.

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                                        Your American mum bringing a leash over and using it on you somewhere in Europe 51 years ago hardly makes me wrong on all fronts.

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                                        • evilcartyen@feddit.dkE [email protected]

                                          So many people on this thread are defending leashes, yet they don't exist anywhere but in the US, so...

                                          I have never ever seen a kid leash in Denmark or any country I have visited, and yet kids here don't run around in stores acting out or disappearing.

                                          I don't know, they seem dehumanizing and humiliating to me. If other countries can raise kids (incl kids on the spectrum) without them why can't the US?

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                                          They weren't uncommon in the US in the '90s, they fell out of favor soon after. Even back then they weren't popular.

                                          In the '80s and earlier, corporal punishment was regular and expected. There was a push in the '90s to stop the corporal punishment. A lot of parents stopped handing out corporal punishment but failed to replace it with any form of discipline. It was not an uncommon to see kids tearing things off shelves yelling at and smacking their parents while their parents were going "now Jimmy, We don't do that" shrinking at parents walking by saying their kids, what are you going to do?;The little backpacks with the leashes were a symptom of failed parenting. If you grew up in this time in a very conservative area you might not have experienced this yourself, as giving timeouts, redirecting, and not beating your kids as a relatively progressive ideal and when it started it was actively disparaged by conservatives.

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