Live long enough to see yourself become the villain
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Hindsight is 20/20. At the time i was willing to forgive a lot to get to Mars.
Now you mention it, the Mars thing was - and continues to be - another unscientific pipedream. The examples I gave were all plainly stupid and/or disgusting at the time.
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wrote on last edited by [email protected]Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.
It's only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn't suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.
It's not by chance that Musk's fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.
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Now you mention it, the Mars thing was - and continues to be - another unscientific pipedream. The examples I gave were all plainly stupid and/or disgusting at the time.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Well now that we know that he's an idiot, I have to look back at the things that I just took for granted. I didn't talk to any rocket scientists 10 years ago so I just believed him when he owned a company that was showing results. Hindsight is 20/20
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He transformed a car into space garbage for publicity in 2015.
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In the comics Thanos was straight up the right man hand/side hoe of the concept of death made manifest the whole point of offing half of all life was just to make mistress death happy (I think she actually ordered it). A lot of the original plot points of the infinity war and its buildup was lost in translation. Movie thanos motivations werent even half baked, he could have doubled resources and made a paradise for life with his motivations
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Interesting, I didn't know that. I don't know how the comics handle these subjects, but I think the most annoying part of basically all the marvel movies is the way they bring up an interesting moral conundrum only to completely abandon the idea once the reason for characters to fight is set up.
Thanos has a point? Can't have that, he's the bad guy! Let's make him do the most evil thing he possibly could with that power so you never need to think about it again. What's that, Civil War has interesting points on both sides? That's nice honey, anyway, Tony and Cap are going to beat each other up now and we're never going to mention it again.
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and the population would still bounce back. He could have ended scarcity entirely and no one would have tried to stop him.
The comics version of him just wanted to have sex with Death. Its also stupid, but it at lease makes sense. The fact that it is stupid makes it even more realistic.
MCU != comics. That should be WELL established. I know they name-dropped 616 in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but that was more like a poor writing choice in an attempt to be an easter egg.
Adding more resources to remove scarcity is dumb. You're acting as if you have 1000 units of resources and 1000 people, but then half it to 1000 units of resources and 500 people, well, they'll just bounce back. But having 2000 units of resources and 1000 people, well, that'll auto balance, and they won't grow to match resources. Or even worse, infinite resources, to ensure scarcity is removed. Iron is a resource. Iron is found inside living things, and it's found in the sun and the core of the planets. Double iron... what happens? The complete genocide of everything. Though it's true, scarcity would be removed because everything is dead. Pick any resources and if you follow it, I mean really think about it, you'll find it's not a "oh just" type of solution. And it ignores the logistics of the whole thing too, he was snapping his fingers once, not putting out a beat, just so he can handle multiple worlds/species/requirements for each. It wasn't open mic night at the MCU.
His plan, which I want to remind you, is in a movie which none of it needs to make sense... because ya know, magic rocks...
If a planet is struggling, due to pollution or overpopulation.... now that's been solved, and they could potentially plan around that for the future. Put policies in place and whatnot. Other planets, well, people are very superstitious. The number of ghost stories on tv or YouTube, or the fact that organized religion exists, proves that. For those folks, seeing "Hey we got up to like X number of people and then god got mad (since 99.99999...% of all living things in the MCU would have no idea what or why half got dusted), we shouldn't do that again". And in the MCU, we see various gods do exist, and they don't give a shit what happens to the mortals (Thor Love and Thunder). -
How I've always seen him
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yep, its been obvious to those who've been paying attention / not fanboy fellating Musk's cock every day... it's been obvious for a solid decade that he is a lying, petty, temperamental, narcissistic con artist.
Now he's just worse.
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He has been a scumbag since forever.
From the Thai 'pedophile' incident to wanting to keep his factories open in peak Covid times under Biden.
All was OK when he served blue MAGA.
HypocritesAll was OK when he served blue MAGA.
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These days he looks more like this:
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wrote on last edited by [email protected]I remember in the very early days not getting the full 'hype' of "MUSK IS SO SMART", but I enjoyed him as a "This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb becomes incredibly wealthy - he wants to throw money at space and technology. That's neat."
His PR guys must've done a good job at keeping the worst of his tendencies behind closed doors - or at least further than most casual observers would look. Around the time of the 'pedo guy' incident it began to unravel for me. Curious that a social media addiction undid all the work of his PR team.
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Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.
It's only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn't suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.
It's not by chance that Musk's fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.
When did his stupid submarine thing happen? I think that was the start of the public meltdown
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I hate to break it to the people 10 years ago, but Musk has always been a horrible person
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No on is looking at elon like that,and no one ever did
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Was more or less aware of who he was until the cave incident where all his worse tendencies came to light with enough reach to get to me.
Then some research later, I was aware of tech bros and their ilk.
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No way. Thanos was actually cool.
He also didn't take nearly as much ketamine as musk.
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I remember in the very early days not getting the full 'hype' of "MUSK IS SO SMART", but I enjoyed him as a "This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb becomes incredibly wealthy - he wants to throw money at space and technology. That's neat."
His PR guys must've done a good job at keeping the worst of his tendencies behind closed doors - or at least further than most casual observers would look. Around the time of the 'pedo guy' incident it began to unravel for me. Curious that a social media addiction undid all the work of his PR team.
I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.
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When did his stupid submarine thing happen? I think that was the start of the public meltdown
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The actual public meltdown started there, but before that there was already a history of sales bullshit with unachievable promises with things like the hyperloop and solar tiles, which for those who were paying attention were enough to mentally classify Musk as part of the "Fishy and possible scam artist" category.
Musk hasn't really changed his swindling strategy much in the last couple of decades, he just started going beyond the script and sharing his actual opinions (which turned out to be "I'm a member of the Fascist elite" crap), possibly because the very cult of personality around him of all the fanboys made him think people loved him for him, rather than for the highly curate tech bro image (back when tech bros were seen as Heroes rather than Villains) he projected.
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Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.
It's only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn't suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.
It's not by chance that Musk's fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.
I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.
I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.
I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.
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I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren't a thing 10 years ago.
Yeah, he was always an idiot, but I remember reading a super interesting article about how he accidentally radicalized himself when he changed X's algorithm. He tweaked it to be far right, and radicalized himself because he's one of the most active users on the platform. FAFO.
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I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.
I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.
I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Well, a decade ago I had hope too, but also already felt the guy was fishy (because he already had a history of overpromising and under-delivering and in the areas I was an expert in, I had spotted him outright lying) and so was skeptical about his promises and his companies. Also, having been involved in Tech Startups, my expectation from people in his position and his language were already negative since the Startup World back then was already dominated by scam artists with a salesmanship or Finance backgrund for whom Tech was a vehicle for self-enrichment, not by idealists who loved challenges or the actual Tech.
Also by that point I had already spent a good period in Investment Finance and could recognize a certain style of bollocks a mile away.
I wasn't aware of just how much a shit person the guy was, but all my instints told me he was a sociopath who would only ever do anything better for the World if it made him more money than not doing it.
