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  • 9 [email protected]

    I suppose living in the Netherlands, a pretty crowded place, assures you that you're rarely ever alone in the middle of nowhere for very long. But yes that is handy and I can totally understand parents feeling comfortable with their kids being able to call for help if anything ever happens to them.

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    No you are never that far from society in NL, but at moments when every second counts I would rather just have a phone for my kid. Use something like a Nokia, give them a 10 euro prepaid card and if it is used up buy more and take it from their savings.

    At least that's what ill do when I have kids

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      Then the person sends you a 2 minute long audio over whatsapp

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      Not if I don't have whatsapp.

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        I think a lot more kids got napped in the States before cellphones were common

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        Kidnaps are and were never common. It's one of the most overrated risks that parents worry about. And also one of the most disastrous especially in the US, where people, riled up by media, seems to find it irresponisble to let your child roam around the world unwatched. Whereas experts have shown again and again that this is important for the childs development.

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          at least in germany you can just disable voicemail

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            I think I was maybe 12 when I got my first smartphone, admittedly they weren't really a thing much earlier than that and while I definitely have issues I'm pretty sure none of them were caused by the phone

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            There was no Instagram/TikTok back then, though.

            Or Cocomelon, or other services and channels literally designed to break impressionable brains.

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              at least in germany you can just disable voicemail

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              Brb moving to Germany

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                Voice notes on WhatsApp/iMessage is essentially the exact same thing as voicemail but for some reason zoomers are happier with those.

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                  This is perfect. At least boomers have an excuse. Millennials using voice notes is unforgivable.

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                  • 9 [email protected]

                    Kidnaps are and were never common. It's one of the most overrated risks that parents worry about. And also one of the most disastrous especially in the US, where people, riled up by media, seems to find it irresponisble to let your child roam around the world unwatched. Whereas experts have shown again and again that this is important for the childs development.

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                    That paranoia came about when crime documentaries got big on TV (and now internet) rather than a consistent increase in abductions. People are really bad at reasoning with probability and undoing attentional bias from media, so they even think it can be likely kids would be abducted if left alone.

                    This is why 24/7 location tracking on kid's phones is completely normalized. Sure, it's not a bad thing to take precautions, but tracking your kids like a dog seems a bit much. And I'm sure a lot of parents misuse it for a lot less serious things (eg teens being at the mall unsupervised).

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                      I get voicemail from blocked numbers

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                      You need to setup your phone to answer and then hang up automatically on the callers. On my Pixel I only get VMs from spam callers if I didn't have any signal at the time.

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                        What? How do you set that up?

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                        It's carrier specific. Mine doesn't do that either. iPhones seem to be the only ones that force it. Otherwise I get to sit through the same dial-in voicemail service as ever.

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                          You need to setup your phone to answer and then hang up automatically on the callers. On my Pixel I only get VMs from spam callers if I didn't have any signal at the time.

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                          That would tell them the line and number is valid. Not interested in perpetuating their tripe.

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                            Damn I'm so curious about the venn diagram overlap between pet who hate calls and people who love video "news" like tiktok. I bet it's near a circle.

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                            I, for one, hate both equally. I want to READ my news, and I don't even care if it comes with static images.

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                              That would tell them the line and number is valid. Not interested in perpetuating their tripe.

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                              So does having a voicemail? How is that any different.

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                                Voice notes on WhatsApp/iMessage is essentially the exact same thing as voicemail but for some reason zoomers are happier with those.

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                                Navigating the voicemail menu is really annoying

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                                  Navigating the voicemail menu is really annoying

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                                  Agree, haven't had to use it for a while. Not sure why I was defending it... maybe couldn't resist an opportunity to dunk on zoomers.

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                                    So does having a voicemail? How is that any different.

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                                    The difference is they can drone on all they want and I don't have to listen to it. Can straight delete the voicemails without playing them

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                                      The difference is they can drone on all they want and I don't have to listen to it. Can straight delete the voicemails without playing them

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                                      You can't hear anything, the phone answers and then immediately hangs up and disconnects the call.

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                                        You can't hear anything, the phone answers and then immediately hangs up and disconnects the call.

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                                        Yep. I also keep do not disturb active for that exact reason. If I have the phone in my hand when it lights up a caller and I recognize the number I answer it. Everyone else gets the block

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                                          It's carrier specific. Mine doesn't do that either. iPhones seem to be the only ones that force it. Otherwise I get to sit through the same dial-in voicemail service as ever.

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                                          Darn, I thought that was the case but I was kinda hoping that I could get around it.

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