US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
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Why do they recieves billions if they do not need it. Israel economy would have crumbled if they didn't recieve as much aid
Because politicians need campaign contributions and unless they support Israel, that money not only dries up, but actively gets used against them.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections
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Think a bit before talking. If i give an arm to someone knowing exactly that he will kill domeone then i am complicit with thr crime of murder. Same with biden and trump
Problem: That's not why Biden armed Israel.
Biden armed Israel under the belief that they would use the weapons for legitimate defense, specifically against Iran. That's a naive assumption, but it was done in good faith.
Netanyahu then illegally used the weapons offensively. Apparently nobody has the balls to call him out on it.
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Because politicians need campaign contributions and unless they support Israel, that money not only dries up, but actively gets used against them.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections
You basically admit that israel need american politicians to send thrm money and protect them diplomatically for any consequences. It's a win win for israel and the politicians.
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Problem: That's not why Biden armed Israel.
Biden armed Israel under the belief that they would use the weapons for legitimate defense, specifically against Iran. That's a naive assumption, but it was done in good faith.
Netanyahu then illegally used the weapons offensively. Apparently nobody has the balls to call him out on it.
Again iran do not want to attack the usa. The usa is the one who want to . The united state been the biggest agressor and bully at least for 50 years.
Your country has no ligitimate defence
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Nope. Israel started the genocide before we sent them a dime of aid and will continue until every Palestinian is dead regardless of how little support we send them.
Like I say, sniper bullets are dirt cheap, they don't need our help killing kids.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war
Could Israel flatten all of Gaza with sniper bullets?
Have you seen any actual combat footage from Gaza which is not American F35 planes dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents? There is good reason Israel does not dare to do anything except bomb from the sky.
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Could Israel flatten all of Gaza with sniper bullets?
Have you seen any actual combat footage from Gaza which is not American F35 planes dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents? There is good reason Israel does not dare to do anything except bomb from the sky.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Nope, but they don't need to do that for a genocide either. It started when they began blocking food and medical supplies in the 90s.
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Again iran do not want to attack the usa. The usa is the one who want to . The united state been the biggest agressor and bully at least for 50 years.
Your country has no ligitimate defence
We aren't talking about Iran wanting to attack the US, they want to (and repeatedly have) attacked Israel, which is why Biden was supporting Israel.
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We aren't talking about Iran wanting to attack the US, they want to (and repeatedly have) attacked Israel, which is why Biden was supporting Israel.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Ok sorry for misreading you.
Why biden should protect a state occupying palestinian for 57 years? Why do you agree with biden being complicit?
Biden support israel for the usa imperialism and ideology
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Yes and Eastern civilizations would do it too if they had the power. This is a human problem, not just a western problem.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what's on the news today, so what I'm talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you're talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if...
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You basically admit that israel need american politicians to send thrm money and protect them diplomatically for any consequences. It's a win win for israel and the politicians.
Oh, no, they don't NEED the money, they WANT the money.
Big difference.Same as you or I would if we had our own lobbying firm.
I should say too... this is not unique to Israel. The American Military Industrial Complex is based on "Please give us lucrative contracts you don't need so we can spend money in red state communities that vote for you."
This is how we get billion dollar contracts for things we don't need, but can't be killed because of donations to the politicians.
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Why am I skirting any rule? Those like you include you. I've even said explicitly on your quote.
You were fooled and you're trying to defend it as some form of moral superiority. You don't care about Gaza, you care more about not admitting you were wrong.
Go ahead and report me, just be careful to not fall from your high horse.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I've reported you, but not "you" in particular, but those like you in general
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Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what's on the news today, so what I'm talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you're talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if...
So your argument is that it isn't a human thing and easterners are superior to westerners? Would that be a race thing?
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Ok sorry for misreading you.
Why biden should protect a state occupying palestinian for 57 years? Why do you agree with biden being complicit?
Biden support israel for the usa imperialism and ideology
Because following the holocaust the world decided that everyone owed the Jewish people a homeland and the US was a key player in a) ending the holocaust and b) making Israel happen.
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
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I don't see an acceleration. Israel is trying to kill the most number of palestinians while the united snake send billions to israel
For one, look at the article headline.
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For one, look at the article headline.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]For one stop, believing the USA without thinking before
The USA been voted no to UN resolutions to recognize a Palestinian independent state since 1974.
I prefer an honest scum who say we oppose a two state solution or any other type of solution than a hypocrite scum who claim to want one
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Could Israel flatten all of Gaza with sniper bullets?
Have you seen any actual combat footage from Gaza which is not American F35 planes dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents? There is good reason Israel does not dare to do anything except bomb from the sky.
Love that his argument keeps going between Biden was just old and raised that way, he couldn't do anything since it was established usa policy, and it's just usa doing proxy war against Iran so of course they need to support the genocide.
All to keep Bidens image clean.
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Because following the holocaust the world decided that everyone owed the Jewish people a homeland and the US was a key player in a) ending the holocaust and b) making Israel happen.
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Palestinians has nothing to do the holocaust. Actually 13k Palestinians volunteered to fight nazi Germany. Maybe the united state should has offer some land to zionists to create it's state .
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
I don't give a damn, every single president who defended israeli occupation is a war criminal and should be held accountable
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Palestinians has nothing to do the holocaust. Actually 13k Palestinians volunteered to fight nazi Germany. Maybe the united state should has offer some land to zionists to create it's state .
No US President is going to turn their back on that. Biden did not do anything different than every other president in the past 70 years.
I don't give a damn, every single president who defended israeli occupation is a war criminal and should be held accountable
I never said they did, they didn't enter into the equation at all at the time. The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine.
Things could have gone a lot differently otherwise, very fun speculative novel based on the idea of giving them Sitka, Alaska instead:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yiddish_Policemen's_Union
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You're right, it would have, but the reality was Trump or Harris. It was still an extremely easy decision, but it would have been better if the less shitty candidate was even less shitty.
If Democrats can't handle the lowest bar in thr world, that of being against genocide, then the party doesn't deserve to exist full stop. We need a new party, the Dems won't save us from the next Trump either.
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I never said they did, they didn't enter into the equation at all at the time. The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine.
Things could have gone a lot differently otherwise, very fun speculative novel based on the idea of giving them Sitka, Alaska instead:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yiddish_Policemen's_Union
The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine
Most of the world didn't decide this and more importanly the local population refused
