US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
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I never said they did, they didn't enter into the equation at all at the time. The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine.
Things could have gone a lot differently otherwise, very fun speculative novel based on the idea of giving them Sitka, Alaska instead:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yiddish_Policemen's_Union
The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine
Most of the world didn't decide this and more importanly the local population refused
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Maybe, but the theft of indigenous lands is a continuum from the western European empires of yore to what's on the news today, so what I'm talking about is a concrete reality that is unfolding (yet again) right in front of us, while you're talking about a probability that things might be the same if, if, if...
How is "theft of indigenous" lands a western thing? I cant think of a single region that didnt seek to acquire more territory.
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The world decided to give Jewish people a homeland and they picked (then) Palestine
Most of the world didn't decide this and more importanly the local population refused
At that point, following the holocaust, it didn't matter what the locals wanted, it was imposed on them regardless.
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At that point, following the holocaust, it didn't matter what the locals wanted, it was imposed on them regardless.
So you agree that the support for Israel since the beginning was wrong right?
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The zionists won. It doesn't need reminding.
A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out. I don't get this sentiment to keep stomping.
A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out.
No, it succeeded in its goal - making sure the fascist won.
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Look, I was the first person in threads to call these people out back in February. And March... But it's June. This shit accomplishes nothing now beyond creating more unnecessary division.
I don't even disagree, it's just not productive to constantly harp on this when we've all heard it a million times
I don’t even disagree, it’s just not productive to constantly harp on this when we’ve all heard it a million times
Man, there are people who still believe that helping fascism win was a good idea. Look in this very comment thread, where people are openly extolling the virtues of having Trump win from a 'leftist' standpoint, and teaching those damn dirty SHITLIBS a lesson.
As long as those opinions remain widespread on here, it remains necessary to highlight just how morally repugnant they are.
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So you agree that the support for Israel since the beginning was wrong right?
Support for Israel was not. Supporting Israel at the expense of any other people was.
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Support for Israel was not. Supporting Israel at the expense of any other people was.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Supporting Israel at the expense of any other people was.
Bro that's the whole history of israel. Israel should have zero protection against anybody until they go back to pre 67 territory
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"but one of them will explicitly make it worse"
Biden was making it worse for over a fucking year. Your comic is not clever or informative or even truthful, sorry. I voted for Harris, but I cannot control how others vote. If democrats want votes, they should actually try to get them. Democrats running on "other guy will make it worstester!!!!" while still making things worse themselves is a losing strategy and yet here you are defending it. That's truly a stick-in-spokes maneuver.
the contentious point has never been that democrats should have run a better campaign. on that we all agree. the relevant issue has always been that not voting democrat would result in a worse outcome.
surprise surprise. it did.
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Decades of broken promises and bad-faith negotiations prove that the U.S. has never had a "peace process" for the Mideast. Our process has always been, "Israel always gets whatever it wants and fark everything else. "
Idk, doesn't really fit with the timeline. Why commit a slow af 77 year genocide when you've got the backing of UN Veto power and their world's most powerful military? I think the Biden admin really did pursue peaceful coexistence, they just sucked ass at it and Netanyahu wanted Trump to win so he dragged the conflict out.
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If Democrats can't handle the lowest bar in thr world, that of being against genocide, then the party doesn't deserve to exist full stop. We need a new party, the Dems won't save us from the next Trump either.
Cool, but that doesn't happen in the general election. The seems aren't good, but had 3rd party and non voters voted for Harris, then yes, the Democratic party would have saved us from Trump. Realistically, it's the people saving us from Trump via the Democratic party, but at the end of the day, we got Trump because those same individuals decided a Trump presidency was the better outcome. Full stop.
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I've reported you, but not "you" in particular, but those like you in general
Which app are you using? The official one only let's you report one person at a time, I don't see "all those not fooled by fascist in general" as an option.
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Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’
Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.
Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”
The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]it was over the moment trump moved the embassy to jeruselum. oh and they never even planned to give palestine thier rightful state.
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how the fck this has so many votes ?
that scum did nothing but lie about it for a year. that trash had failed upward his entire political carrier by bankrolling with aipac blood money.he is the biggest reason harris lost and was probably told to do so by israel.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]racism, toxic masculinity, sexism won out over actual governance policies. DNC underestimated the "socially conservatives" of blacks, and hispanic people. add in a little election interference of the machines and propaganda.
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Israel has a very successful gamble in showing they are the white man's key to the Middle East. For as long as no one wills to find another ally in the region, Israel oversells itself as a one. And as any other bad example of putting all eggs in one basket, Israel felt the dependency other states have in it, and now tests it, tests it, tests it with no negative response.
Palestine and Gaza are just them dipping their toes to know, if they can get scots-free from shooting weak HAMAS and civs and get into a real war Netanyahu's cabinet already planning. It's 2025 and in the coming years we'd see even more violence from that beloved partner if no one pulls the stop lever.
I think it's a real war already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_war
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Nope, but they don't need to do that for a genocide either. It started when they began blocking food and medical supplies in the 90s.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Wow interesting you sure know a lot about history. Especially all the stuff which somehow makes it not Biden his fault that Israel was committing a full scale genocide which started during his term according to even Wikipedia.
Remind me who was advocating for Israel back in the 90s
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For one stop, believing the USA without thinking before
The USA been voted no to UN resolutions to recognize a Palestinian independent state since 1974.
I prefer an honest scum who say we oppose a two state solution or any other type of solution than a hypocrite scum who claim to want one
Enjoy trump then
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Why treat people with dignity when you can genocide them and grab all that real estate?
"They say they'll kill them off, take their land and go there for vacation"
-Rage Against the Machine
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I don't see an acceleration. Israel is trying to kill the most number of palestinians while the united snake send billions to israel
united snake
That's an insult to actual snakes
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The zionists won. It doesn't need reminding.
A movement tried to make Palestine a relevant political issue for the electorate. It got stomped out. I don't get this sentiment to keep stomping.
The zionists won
For now. Given what climate change has been doing, it will be short lived. The house always wins
Of course it's coming for us all eventually. But some places sooner than others.
