TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History
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Because most Americans have knee-jerk reactions to labels as opposed to policies. Like how everyone supports all the protections Obamacare provides, but how they all want to get rid of Obamacare.
also voter suppression gerrymanderinng élite control of the media etc
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My take is that there are a lot of Left people who won't vote for anyone except a candidate they support 100%. Hilary Clinton should have destroyed Trump. Those people ignore the simple truth that any time any GOP gets elected the whole country moves to the right.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're right of course, the left is responsible for anything the right does. Would you care for a glass of soap?
Edit: Not only do they not understand burden of proof as a concept, they're a pedophile. Don't waste your time.
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Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?
Two words, voter disenfranchisement
They remove the right to vote from our poor, our people of color, our citizens who have made mistakes but paid their debts to society, they remove polling places, making people wait hours and hours standing in lines to vote, giving them water is illegal, they purge voter roles right before elections…. And so so many more things. So many Americans don’t vote because they can’t because our right wing government has put so many roadblocks in the way.
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You're right of course, the left is responsible for anything the right does. Would you care for a glass of soap?
Edit: Not only do they not understand burden of proof as a concept, they're a pedophile. Don't waste your time.
There are two sides. The Right and everyone else. The Right wins because they stay on topic and vote. Until the rest of us fall in line like they do, they'll keep on winning. Show me where I'm wrong.
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Boy. They sure coulda made that more apparent. Seems like something to put more in parenthesis than a footnote.
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There are two sides. The Right and everyone else. The Right wins because they stay on topic and vote. Until the rest of us fall in line like they do, they'll keep on winning. Show me where I'm wrong.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You're wrong by blaming the fictional non voting left for all your woes. Don't be stupid.
It's very simple. 36% of people didn't vote on average. What percent of those people are leftists? If you don't have that information, then you're making shit up and demanding other people prove it for you.
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I was about to say the list was incomplete as several million attended the Iraq war protests, but it turns out that was global and only a few hundred k Americans bothered to protest the invasion of Iraq based on manufactured propaganda.
The post 9/11 bloodthirsty hysteria, "you're either with us or against us" dissonance, religious nationalism, and ignorant patriotism is what made me believe the US would become an authoritarian dictatorship in my lifetime. Great job teenage me. I hate it.
I was 16 when 9/11 happened and I was a pretty tuned in kid who spoke up about the issues I had with it, how horrible the patriot act was, all sorts of things and I can absolutely attest the response was always extremely hostile and cutting, filled with personal attacks about how moronic I was, now naive and of course because I’m female I’m inherently too stupid to hold a conversation about this so just shout me down so I will shut my stupid girl mouth and sit down. I’ve never changed my mind, why would I? And you know what, I still get attacked in exactly the same ways but at least the “you’re a terrorist for not supporting the Iraq war” has died down
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A lot of people forget the shear bloodlust in the USA after 9/11 that lasted for years.
When people compare the Vietnam and Iraq Wars, a lot of people forget there was a large chunk of the country who were rabidly pro Iraq War while there wasn't an equivalent base for the Vietnam War.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It felt like everyone was like you were either 1000% on board or you were casually on board cause you weren’t “into politics” but trying to find likeminded people who opposed it felt impossible to me. I was 16 when 9/11 happened and shortly after was when I stoped standing for the anthem or saluting the flag in the morning and I was the only kid in my highschool of 1,800 kids to do that and wow I got SO MUCH hate for it
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You're wrong by blaming the fictional non voting left for all your woes. Don't be stupid.
It's very simple. 36% of people didn't vote on average. What percent of those people are leftists? If you don't have that information, then you're making shit up and demanding other people prove it for you.
You're saying I'm wrong, and not providing anything like actual information. Why don't you give me some facts and figures to explain it?
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You're saying I'm wrong, and not providing anything like actual information. Why don't you give me some facts and figures to explain it?
Making stupid claims and then demanding proof they aren't true is pretty weak
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Making stupid claims and then demanding proof they aren't true is pretty weak
lol!
You are very funny!
And yes, I am laughing at you.
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In terms of attendance it was the largest set of protests to ever happen in the US.
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lol!
You are very funny!
And yes, I am laughing at you.
Laugh away, kiddy diddler.
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Laugh away, kiddy diddler.
So, instead of actually doing research to prove me wrong, you went through all my threads and found something you can take out of context?
That makes you even funnier!
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Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?
Others have commented valid points but I also wanted to bring up propaganda;
A lot of people are unwilling or even unable (i.e. there is only one tv in the house and you don’t get to control the remote most of the time) to get their news from sources that aren’t constantly telling them that Democrats are out to get them and 2SLGBTQIA+ are the enemy and that if they just vote for (wealthy conservative) then all their problems will be solved overnight. Couple that with an education system that has failed to give people the critical thinking skills to ask what trans folk have to do with the economy and you get the 2024 election.
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This makes me really hopeful.
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You're wrong by blaming the fictional non voting left for all your woes. Don't be stupid.
It's very simple. 36% of people didn't vote on average. What percent of those people are leftists? If you don't have that information, then you're making shit up and demanding other people prove it for you.
There's your tankie behavior.
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It felt like everyone was like you were either 1000% on board or you were casually on board cause you weren’t “into politics” but trying to find likeminded people who opposed it felt impossible to me. I was 16 when 9/11 happened and shortly after was when I stoped standing for the anthem or saluting the flag in the morning and I was the only kid in my highschool of 1,800 kids to do that and wow I got SO MUCH hate for it
wrote last edited by [email protected]This is online discourse in general with Americans. Nuance is impossible, it's all "you're either with us or against us", for example when discussing China. Doesn't even have to be something political, just any charged argument at a point in time.
Must be a coincidence that Lemmy was much more relaxed and welcoming when there were fewer Americans here in the beginning, you could even read news about European countries, now all we get is American politics spam.
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Hopefully the people can push out maga eventually.
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7 out of top 10 during Trump's presidential terms. My take is that civil duty to protest is stronger than voting for non-Republicans, maybe if elections were on saturdays instead of tuesdays...
Classic bad take
You can vote and protest, they're not mutually exclusive
Stop trying to divide the left
