TIL No Kings Protests were the 3rd Largest in US History
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Ok I will. Yes
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There is an evil witch that lives underground in the Moon and who is mind-controlling non-Rightwing votes in the US so that they don't vote. Show me were I'm wrong.
The easiest thing in the World is to come up with a wild-ass theory without backing it with any evidence and then demanding others disprove it - I do believe that's even a 4chan special.
Donald Trump won the election in 2016 over Hilary Clinton. How much more evidence do you need that people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP?
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Donald Trump won the election in 2016 over Hilary Clinton. How much more evidence do you need that people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP?
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's as much "evidence" for your original "two sides" theory as it is for my "witch in the Moon" theory.
Also you've moved the goalposts to a self-fullfilling and generic to the point of uselessness statement "people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP".
That's like saying that "all drivers in car crashes should have done more not to crash their cars".
Well, true, but also about as worthless as "insights" go as "the sky is blue".
Also by blaming people you're implying that "the system works and is fair" hence the fault is entirelly of people who have full agency and control. I'm afraid that things like the partisan support in the US for Genocide or the extreme level of police violence show that "people" don't really have full agency or even much control - in fact I could spend the whole day listing how most people don't really have much in the way of control of how the US is managed, though granted those wo do have most of the control are people (unless one subscribes to the theory that the ultra-rich are lizard-men).
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That's as much "evidence" for your original "two sides" theory as it is for my "witch in the Moon" theory.
Also you've moved the goalposts to a self-fullfilling and generic to the point of uselessness statement "people should have done more to defeat Donald and the GOP".
That's like saying that "all drivers in car crashes should have done more not to crash their cars".
Well, true, but also about as worthless as "insights" go as "the sky is blue".
Also by blaming people you're implying that "the system works and is fair" hence the fault is entirelly of people who have full agency and control. I'm afraid that things like the partisan support in the US for Genocide or the extreme level of police violence show that "people" don't really have full agency or even much control - in fact I could spend the whole day listing how most people don't really have much in the way of control of how the US is managed, though granted those wo do have most of the control are people (unless one subscribes to the theory that the ultra-rich are lizard-men).
Let's turn it around.
What's your plan? How do you propose to get Trump out? Be very specific.
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Let's turn it around.
What's your plan? How do you propose to get Trump out? Be very specific.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
By worring so much about the puppet instead of the puppet masters, you're playing into the hands of the handful of people who control the politics of the US and hence the US.
Go after the real power of the land: the ultra-wealthy.
A General Strike would be a good start.
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Trump is a symptom, not the disease.
By worring so much about the puppet instead of the puppet masters, you're playing into the hands of the handful of people who control the politics of the US and hence the US.
Go after the real power of the land: the ultra-wealthy.
A General Strike would be a good start.
lol! You demand specifics and plans, and then throw out two words. "General strike."
Details, please. Who is the leader? What is the date? What are your demands? How are you going to handle invalids and homebound folks who need food and meds delivered? Schools open or close?
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Ok I will. Yes
Can you provide examples? From what I gather, 1 cops are still killing people, 2 we're still speeding towards climate catastrophe, 3 Trump is still in power, 4 Poverty and wealth disparity is getting worse, 5 Women in many walks of life are still second class citizens.
Unless the lasting impact you mean is one step forwards three steps backwards.
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The posters username is ironic, given the content.
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We are the majority.
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🧑‍ Always have been. That's why conservatives constantly try to make it harder to vote - the more people vote, the more left wing politicians win. Because the majority of people agree with left wing ideals.Not necessarily true. People with left wing beliefs often vote for right wing candidates because the only information they have is their tiktok feeds and fox news playing at home.
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not to rain on the parade or nothing, but a protest that hasn't the implicit threat of "...or else" is just a hang
Getting millions of Americans to go out and essentially shout "F U Donald" is a little bit more than a hang. And is potentially much more effective than a riot or occupy wall street.
America is still a democracy, in that all the roads to power require you to get folk to show up and vote for you.
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Getting millions of Americans to go out and essentially shout "F U Donald" is a little bit more than a hang. And is potentially much more effective than a riot or occupy wall street.
America is still a democracy, in that all the roads to power require you to get folk to show up and vote for you.
America is still a democracy,
Not much longer if americans dont fight harder.
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The posters username is ironic, given the content.
Rand is not a king. He is the dragon reborn and the chief of chiefs, but not a king.
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lol! You demand specifics and plans, and then throw out two words. "General strike."
Details, please. Who is the leader? What is the date? What are your demands? How are you going to handle invalids and homebound folks who need food and meds delivered? Schools open or close?
wrote last edited by [email protected]By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, "asking" for others to provide solutions only to criticize them when given them, you've just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.
Whatever is the way to solve the US problems, it's the very opposite of that "criticized everything and everybody" shit that you, EXACTLY LIKE THE FAR-RIGHT POPULISTS are doing - that shit is literaly "how to divide people and make them believe there is no option other than compliance" out of the Authoritarian Playbook
Being a fucking rock, literally, does more towards solving the situation in the US than what you are doing.
Whether because you're a sock-puppet or because you're the ultimate useful idiot, you are part of the problem, not of the solution.
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Doesn't even have to be something political
Yeah, it does. Everything is political. I guarantee, you've never had an apolitical argument taken over by Americans, because there's no such thing as an apolitical argument
"I liked the gameplay of Witcher 2 more than Witcher 3's"
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By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, "asking" for others to provide solutions only to criticize them when given them, you've just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.
Whatever is the way to solve the US problems, it's the very opposite of that "criticized everything and everybody" shit that you, EXACTLY LIKE THE FAR-RIGHT POPULISTS are doing - that shit is literaly "how to divide people and make them believe there is no option other than compliance" out of the Authoritarian Playbook
Being a fucking rock, literally, does more towards solving the situation in the US than what you are doing.
Whether because you're a sock-puppet or because you're the ultimate useful idiot, you are part of the problem, not of the solution.
By exactly using the MAGA the technique of, after ranting about blaming everybody else but yourself about all maner of problems, “asking” for others to provide solutions only to criticize them when given them, you’ve just proved what I suspected, so thanks for that.
You realize you're literally describing exactly what you did. You demanded details then couldn't come up with anything but a pipe dream.
And if I'm doing what MAGA did, what is the problem? Patton was the general the Germans feared the most, because he fought exactly the way they did.
And I love the last line. If I am the problem, what is the solution? Again, give me a lot of details.
Things like who is going to organize this general strike?
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Did any of these have any lasting impact?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I mean, yeah- they all did an excellent job of reinforcing the fascists’ understanding of how little a threat the US “left” is.
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not to rain on the parade or nothing, but a protest that hasn't the implicit threat of "...or else" is just a hang
All the other benefits of a non-violent protest aside, there's also immense value is reminding people that they're not as singular in their viewpoint as they feel.
For a lot of people, it's been very easy to feel like everyone else must be in board with this.
I'm not sure what you're looking for to codify the implicit threat. A couple million people calling you a king at an event called "no kings day" in a country whose founding narrative is "violently rebel against kings" seems pretty implicit to me.
Also, I just realized that there's a red coat/red hat parallel I haven't seen leveraged yet that has a lot of potential.
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Can you provide examples? From what I gather, 1 cops are still killing people, 2 we're still speeding towards climate catastrophe, 3 Trump is still in power, 4 Poverty and wealth disparity is getting worse, 5 Women in many walks of life are still second class citizens.
Unless the lasting impact you mean is one step forwards three steps backwards.
Do you think that the needle has moved in a positive direction since these protests? Even if it feels like only a few millimetres?
Starting from the bottom of this list:
5. There's more women in the workforce than ever before https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/75-006-x/2022001/article/00009-eng.htm
4. We've seen a drop in poverty since 2017 (but it's climbing back up!) https://www160.statcan.gc.ca/prosperity-prosperite/poverty-pauvrete-eng.htm
3. As a direct response to Trump, Canada elected a Centre-Left Prime Minister in Marl Carney's Liberals when the election was decidedly going to be a Rightwing landslide with the Poilievre's Conservatives.
2. Green, renewable energy has never been more popular.- There have been significant reforms since the George Floyd protests. Some cops have seen prison time, or lost their jobs entirely.
That's not to say our job is done and everything is a utopia now - we still have a lot of work to do. However, we do need to acknowledge when things have moved in a good direction or we'll be overwhelmed by the bad and lose hope.
You've gotta see some of the good through all the shitty headlines that want to make you click and feel bad.
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America is still a democracy,
Not much longer if americans dont fight harder.
I see so many videos with people saying "I support you" and none saying "I'm going to take action." Everyone is dawdling, nobody is doing anything
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Ok I will. Yes
I'm sorry, but every significant change in the world started with violence.
