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  • J [email protected]

    I 100% agree with the idea that rap is certainly not the only genre to glorify violence, drugs, etc. But the specific song choice is not really a great example in my opinion considering the last verse is

    C'mon you gotta listen unto me

    lay off that whiskey, and let that cocaine be.

    This song always struck me as a cautionary tale. Nothing about the song really seems to glorify the behavior.

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    That is true (I love Cash and listened to a lot of his music), but a lot of cons will just take it at face value, same way they do with Punisher.

    Btw, Cash has this "shot my woman down" motif in other songs, like Delia's Gone, and always they end badly, like with him in jail. Too bad the cons only listen to those and skip pieces like San Quentin or Man in Black.

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    • Y [email protected]

      In Johnny Cash's "Live from Folsom Prison" album there is a song called 'cocaine blues'. The first verse goes like this:

      early one morning while making the rounds

      I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down

      I went right home and I went to bed

      I stuck that loving forty-four beneath my head.

      I keep this in my back pocket when conservatives claim that Rap and Hip Hop glorify violence, guns, misogyny, and drug use. I defy you to find something from NAS or Killer Mike that can compete on the level of classic country.

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      It's bordering on conspiracy, but there's an argument to be made that record labels pushed gangster rap and downplayed others to keep black communities down.

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      • mossyfeathers@pawb.socialM [email protected]

        Genesis' Carpet Crawlers (lyrics) wants a word.

        One of the most graphically sexual songs I've ever heard. The only other contender is literally about pet play.

        Edit: the Carpet Crawlers are literally sperm. People never believe me until I start breaking it down, and then they're like, "holy fuck, how did they get away with this?"

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        You should check out the Liza and Louise songs by NOFX lol

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        • urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.worksU [email protected]

          Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind literally is about meth and falling asleep inside a chick, but we all liked it cause it went 🎶do do doo

          Edit: sorry, its also about cocaine

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          Subtlety is for cowards.

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            This is a little weird

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            • P [email protected]

              Using 2 of the most lyrically gifted rappers is cheating. WAP exists.

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              doesn't matter, because it's a disingenuous post anyways. the song is about how that shit is BAD:

              Early one morning while making the rounds
              I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down
              Went right home and I went to bed
              I stuck that loving 44 beneath my head

              Got up next morning and I grabbed that gun
              Took a shot of cocaine and away I run
              Made a good run but run too slow
              They overtook me down in Juarez, Mexico

              Laid in the hot joints taking the pill
              In walked the sheriff from Jericho Hill
              He said Willie Lee, your name is not Jack Brown
              You're the dirty hop that shot your woman down

              I said yes sir, my name is Willie Lee
              If you got a warrant, just read it to me
              Shot her down because she made me sorе
              I thought I was her daddy but she had five morе

              When I was arrested I was dressed in black
              They put me on train and it took me back
              I had no friends for to go my bail
              They slapped my dried up carcass in that county jail

              Got up next morning about a half past nine
              Spied a sheriff coming down the line
              Hopped and he coughed as he cleared his throat
              He said, come on you dirty hop into that district court
              See country shows near Lewiston
              Get tickets as low as $54
              You might also like
              Folsom Prison Blues
              Johnny Cash
              Cocaine Blues
              Billy Strings & Don Julin
              loml
              Taylor Swift
              Into the courtroom, my trial began
              Where I was handled by twelve honest men
              Just before that jury started out
              I saw that little judge commence to look about

              In about five minutes, in walked a man
              Holding the verdict in his right hand
              The verdict read in the first degree
              I hollered, lordy lordy, have mercy on me

              The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
              Ninety-nine years in the Folsom pen
              Ninety-nine years underneath that ground
              I can't forget the day I shot my woman down

              Come on you hops and listen unto me
              Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be

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                doesn't matter, because it's a disingenuous post anyways. the song is about how that shit is BAD:

                Early one morning while making the rounds
                I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down
                Went right home and I went to bed
                I stuck that loving 44 beneath my head

                Got up next morning and I grabbed that gun
                Took a shot of cocaine and away I run
                Made a good run but run too slow
                They overtook me down in Juarez, Mexico

                Laid in the hot joints taking the pill
                In walked the sheriff from Jericho Hill
                He said Willie Lee, your name is not Jack Brown
                You're the dirty hop that shot your woman down

                I said yes sir, my name is Willie Lee
                If you got a warrant, just read it to me
                Shot her down because she made me sorе
                I thought I was her daddy but she had five morе

                When I was arrested I was dressed in black
                They put me on train and it took me back
                I had no friends for to go my bail
                They slapped my dried up carcass in that county jail

                Got up next morning about a half past nine
                Spied a sheriff coming down the line
                Hopped and he coughed as he cleared his throat
                He said, come on you dirty hop into that district court
                See country shows near Lewiston
                Get tickets as low as $54
                You might also like
                Folsom Prison Blues
                Johnny Cash
                Cocaine Blues
                Billy Strings & Don Julin
                loml
                Taylor Swift
                Into the courtroom, my trial began
                Where I was handled by twelve honest men
                Just before that jury started out
                I saw that little judge commence to look about

                In about five minutes, in walked a man
                Holding the verdict in his right hand
                The verdict read in the first degree
                I hollered, lordy lordy, have mercy on me

                The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
                Ninety-nine years in the Folsom pen
                Ninety-nine years underneath that ground
                I can't forget the day I shot my woman down

                Come on you hops and listen unto me
                Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be

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                #29

                My favourite part of that song is when he goes “You might also like Folsom Prison Blues Johnny Cash Cocaine Blues Billy Strings & Don Julin loml Taylor Swift”, truly a banger

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                • edg@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                  This is a little weird

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                  #30

                  Weird is ok

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                    My favourite part of that song is when he goes “You might also like Folsom Prison Blues Johnny Cash Cocaine Blues Billy Strings & Don Julin loml Taylor Swift”, truly a banger

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                    yeah, right before he yells "shoutout yall!" and does that heart thing with his hands. true hardcore johnny cash right there

                    (i'm still laughing that you caught that so quickly)

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                      I read Classic Rock as Christian Rock at first, which would still track.

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                        ...said Barnacle Bill the Sailor.

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                          “I got nipples on my titties big as the end of my thumb, I got somethin between my legs that’ll make a dead man come…”

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                          • urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.worksU [email protected]

                            Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind literally is about meth and falling asleep inside a chick, but we all liked it cause it went 🎶do do doo

                            Edit: sorry, its also about cocaine

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                            Ok wow that song is NOT subtle about it either now that I'm actually looking up the lyrics

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                              FWIW classic rock often wasn't just about sex - it was about sex with 14-year-old girls. And often the same 14-year-old girl.

                              Nothing, however, can possibly top Steven Tyler of Aerosmith becoming the legal guardian of the underage girl he was fucking so he could bring her on tour with him.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                doesn't matter, because it's a disingenuous post anyways. the song is about how that shit is BAD:

                                Early one morning while making the rounds
                                I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down
                                Went right home and I went to bed
                                I stuck that loving 44 beneath my head

                                Got up next morning and I grabbed that gun
                                Took a shot of cocaine and away I run
                                Made a good run but run too slow
                                They overtook me down in Juarez, Mexico

                                Laid in the hot joints taking the pill
                                In walked the sheriff from Jericho Hill
                                He said Willie Lee, your name is not Jack Brown
                                You're the dirty hop that shot your woman down

                                I said yes sir, my name is Willie Lee
                                If you got a warrant, just read it to me
                                Shot her down because she made me sorе
                                I thought I was her daddy but she had five morе

                                When I was arrested I was dressed in black
                                They put me on train and it took me back
                                I had no friends for to go my bail
                                They slapped my dried up carcass in that county jail

                                Got up next morning about a half past nine
                                Spied a sheriff coming down the line
                                Hopped and he coughed as he cleared his throat
                                He said, come on you dirty hop into that district court
                                See country shows near Lewiston
                                Get tickets as low as $54
                                You might also like
                                Folsom Prison Blues
                                Johnny Cash
                                Cocaine Blues
                                Billy Strings & Don Julin
                                loml
                                Taylor Swift
                                Into the courtroom, my trial began
                                Where I was handled by twelve honest men
                                Just before that jury started out
                                I saw that little judge commence to look about

                                In about five minutes, in walked a man
                                Holding the verdict in his right hand
                                The verdict read in the first degree
                                I hollered, lordy lordy, have mercy on me

                                The judge he smiled as he picked up his pen
                                Ninety-nine years in the Folsom pen
                                Ninety-nine years underneath that ground
                                I can't forget the day I shot my woman down

                                Come on you hops and listen unto me
                                Lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be

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                                You might also like Folsom Prison Blues Johnny Cash Cocaine Blues Billy Strings & Don Julin loml Taylor Swift Into the courtroom, my trial began Where I was handled by twelve honest men Just before that jury started out I saw that little judge commence to look about

                                I was skimming your comment and this part look exactly like some autogenerated SEO bullshit.

                                The issue is markdown - to get a proper new line, you need to put two spaces a the end. Alternatively you can just press enter twice, but that obviously creates double spacing, which comes with its own readability issues. And the last solution would be to put all the lyrics into a code block, but that's pretty excessive.

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                                • mossyfeathers@pawb.socialM [email protected]

                                  Genesis' Carpet Crawlers (lyrics) wants a word.

                                  One of the most graphically sexual songs I've ever heard. The only other contender is literally about pet play.

                                  Edit: the Carpet Crawlers are literally sperm. People never believe me until I start breaking it down, and then they're like, "holy fuck, how did they get away with this?"

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                                  The only other contender is literally about pet play.

                                  I need more music like this, about this. 😮

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                                    FWIW classic rock often wasn't just about sex - it was about sex with 14-year-old girls. And often the same 14-year-old girl.

                                    Nothing, however, can possibly top Steven Tyler of Aerosmith becoming the legal guardian of the underage girl he was fucking so he could bring her on tour with him.

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                                    Wasn't that Ted Nugent?

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                                      Wasn't that Ted Nugent?

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                                      I dunno, maybe Nugent did it, too. He's not exactly an original.

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                                      • zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneZ [email protected]

                                        More than you'd expect I imagine. Lots of blues.

                                        Aerosmith is outright gone (probably for the best. They cant make it through a single song without talking about it)

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                                        Aerosmith isn't classic . . . goddammit.

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                                          Sea shanties are all made up by some rich assholes in white gloves sitting on their red baobab chairs

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                                          Helen Creighton rolls in her grave a little bit

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