Are people surprised?
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You'd be surprised. There are quite a few on lemmy that still do the both sides are the same. Oddly trying to do anything to form a new progressive is also something they don't seem interested in either.
Yeah when liberals kill a wedding party or hospital at least they act sad.
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Yeah when liberals kill a wedding party or hospital at least they act sad.
Oddly trying to do anything to form a new progressive is also something they don’t seem interested in either.
Its okay to not like liberals, but that part of my original comment is important.
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But only against countries that pose no threat to them i.e. they are chickenhawks. At least Biden could do the bare minimum to help Ukraine.
They are jingoists, and jingoists are no different than schoolyard bullies who want to appear tough so they loudly proclaim how tough and big they are, which includes an occasional show of force against those they believe won't/can't defend themselves to reinforce their image of being the biggest Tough Guy
around.If they win, they win. If they lose, it's because they decided it wasn't worth their time and left willingly, not because they lost.
This country has always been stuck up its own ass.
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Oddly trying to do anything to form a new progressive is also something they don’t seem interested in either.
Its okay to not like liberals, but that part of my original comment is important.
I read that and it made me sad because that will literally never happen in my potential grandchildren’s lifetimes
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I read that and it made me sad because that will literally never happen in my potential grandchildren’s lifetimes
Same, but
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.
We still need to get the ball rolling. The institutions and networks we need will take a lot of time to build. I know a lot of our fellow lefties don't want to interact with anything government, but doing so with the goals of harm reduction gives us space to lay the roots and set up the next generation for success. If we are serious about things we need follow ups for our protests and making the best efforts we can in our sub-ideal situations.
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Its one thing to be unhappy with the democrats. Its another (and self defeating) to not want to expand the progressive wing inside of it (or to form a new party and go for local elections) and to not stall alt right republicans everywhere else.
Absolutely, I just don't think it actually helps Democrats in the long run to pave over their often deep flaws. If we were harder on Democrats 30 years ago, we probably wouldn't have Trump today.
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Same, but
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit.
We still need to get the ball rolling. The institutions and networks we need will take a lot of time to build. I know a lot of our fellow lefties don't want to interact with anything government, but doing so with the goals of harm reduction gives us space to lay the roots and set up the next generation for success. If we are serious about things we need follow ups for our protests and making the best efforts we can in our sub-ideal situations.
I would rather build a real, actual house for people than a system of oppression built on violence.
And before you say “habitat for humanity Jimmy Carter “ it’s the same catty bureaucracy I’ve found everywhere.
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I would rather build a real, actual house for people than a system of oppression built on violence.
And before you say “habitat for humanity Jimmy Carter “ it’s the same catty bureaucracy I’ve found everywhere.
I would rather build a real, actual house for people than a system of oppression built on violence.
And that does not happen overnight, if you don't follow up protests, and some voting.
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I would rather build a real, actual house for people than a system of oppression built on violence.
And that does not happen overnight, if you don't follow up protests, and some voting.
Bitch I’ve been voting for a quarter fucking century.
I protested the fucking Iraq war II and it still fucking happened.
Keep telling me this bullshit actually works like I’m some fucking eighteen year old.
Democracy is broken
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Bitch I’ve been voting for a quarter fucking century.
I protested the fucking Iraq war II and it still fucking happened.
Keep telling me this bullshit actually works like I’m some fucking eighteen year old.
Democracy is broken
And we need more people to join us
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Are people surprised? Republicans are war hawks even more so than the Libs.
Dude, USA is the country that is involved in most wars - starts them / finances them / whatever. And they usually find a dummy excuse to preserve their facade of doing good.
Face the truth - you are the bully of the world and the ruling party does not matter.
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But only against countries that pose no threat to them i.e. they are chickenhawks. At least Biden could do the bare minimum to help Ukraine.
And considerably more than the bare minimum to help Israel
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Dude, USA is the country that is involved in most wars - starts them / finances them / whatever. And they usually find a dummy excuse to preserve their facade of doing good.
Face the truth - you are the bully of the world and the ruling party does not matter.
Was I ever in denial that the USA likes to play bully and world police? Let's not forget our history about the rest of the Western nations, they're hardly angels themselves. We're all the same people anyways. Actually that reminds me of a good ole George Carlin quote, "We come from that northern European, basically the northern European genes, the blue eyes. Those blue eyes. Boy everybody in the world learned real quick, didn’t they? When those blue eyes sail out of the north, you better nail everything down motherfucker."
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Was I ever in denial that the USA likes to play bully and world police? Let's not forget our history about the rest of the Western nations, they're hardly angels themselves. We're all the same people anyways. Actually that reminds me of a good ole George Carlin quote, "We come from that northern European, basically the northern European genes, the blue eyes. Those blue eyes. Boy everybody in the world learned real quick, didn’t they? When those blue eyes sail out of the north, you better nail everything down motherfucker."
Agreed. I wanted just to emphasize that the party does not make much of a difference in regards to wars.
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Dude, USA is the country that is involved in most wars - starts them / finances them / whatever. And they usually find a dummy excuse to preserve their facade of doing good.
Face the truth - you are the bully of the world and the ruling party does not matter.
Who are you even replying to
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Biden ran on getting back into the deal with Iran, then insisted that Iran must completely return to fulfilling their side of the deal before we would consider returning to ours.
Both sides are not the same but Biden shouldn't be let off the hook for his sudden flip on this issue.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Both sides are the same because Biden said something that suggested he might be hard on Iran (definitely couldn't be a negotiating tactic)?
Yes I know how you ended your comment, I was replying to the rest of it.
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Absolutely, I just don't think it actually helps Democrats in the long run to pave over their often deep flaws. If we were harder on Democrats 30 years ago, we probably wouldn't have Trump today.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Nobody is paving over anything, you just cannot help yourself but shit on them theoretical shit that Biden didn't even fucking do yet.
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Bitch I’ve been voting for a quarter fucking century.
I protested the fucking Iraq war II and it still fucking happened.
Keep telling me this bullshit actually works like I’m some fucking eighteen year old.
Democracy is broken
I think some of the people here are literal children... At least I hope so with how naive and clueless about history they are.
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Both sides are the same because Biden said something that suggested he might be hard on Iran (definitely couldn't be a negotiating tactic)?
Yes I know how you ended your comment, I was replying to the rest of it.
(definitely couldn't be a negotiating tactic)?
No, it definitely wasn't a "negotiation tactic". It was meant to avoid negotiating without Biden's adoring masses noticing that he did a 180. He caved to AIPAC, as he would continue to do throughout his term.
Why the hell would Iran go back to fulfilling it's obligations under the agreement when the US was still ignoring it's obligations? Why would it bother negotiating with a country that doesn't honor negotiated agreements? Everyone in the foreign policy space knew exactly what it was.
Yes I know how you ended your comment,
Then why the fuck did you haul out "both sides"? Why are so many people desperate to throw everything into that frame?
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Nobody is paving over anything, you just cannot help yourself but shit on them theoretical shit that Biden didn't even fucking do yet.
Biden didn't even fucking do yet.
Yet? I'm not sure how to argue with someone who thinks Biden is still president. It doesn't seem worthwhile.
