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    #67

    Ooof. We need a new place now.

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      Good luck hosting the terabytes of data that mods have.

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      Federation would allow you to only host mods not hosted at other servers, with some level of redundancy.

      Also, it could use a modding app with BitTorrent-like functionality, so that downloaders could share their copies as well.

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        You don't need full communism, just make sure companies are owned by the workers

        "Companies owned by the workers" is communism. That's literally what is meant by "shared ownership of the means of production".

        The "means of production" is all the shit that companies own, such as the land, machines, buildings, raw materials, etc...

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        It's literally not, but I don't want to get into it.

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          Ooof. We need a new place now.

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          A new website will suffer the same fate eventually. The best solution I've seen is CKAN for kerbal space program mods. Each mod just hosts its own releases for free on github or wherever they like, and the whole mod index is just another github repo.

          https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN?tab=readme-ov-file#whats-the-ckan

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            It's literally not, but I don't want to get into it.

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            Literally is, sorry you are so confused about the subject.

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              Narrator: It wasn't.

              At the very least the entity that bought it will not rely on donations and revenue from upgraded download speeds, so it will definitely enshittify further to some degree.

              The problem is not capitalism, it's really us expecting shit to be free and rewarding good development and maintenance effort with thoughts and prayers.

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              Capitalism created this expectation. That's how corpos operate. Capture the market then bleed it.

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                You don't need full communism, just make sure companies are owned by the workers

                "Companies owned by the workers" is communism. That's literally what is meant by "shared ownership of the means of production".

                The "means of production" is all the shit that companies own, such as the land, machines, buildings, raw materials, etc...

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                #73

                Socialism is the means of production owned by the state or the workers.

                Communism is a subset of socialism, where you have a classless society. Different communist doctrines have a different view on how to achieve that.

                Edit : clicked on the wrong reply button. Oh well

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                  No mention of who it is even being sold to, so bizarre.

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                  A big corpo comes in and offer you a life changing amount of money. Very few people can say no to that, myself included.

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                    To add to the conversation, one of the two new owners has replied to some questions: https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15301?comment_id=155643499

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                      Paid mods I think are unlikely, why bother to make a change so unpopular? Milk this shit for a decade and press this button only when shit hits the fan.

                      Unfortunately, I think this will be likely because Nexus has almost entirely cornered the market on mods. It is the place people get their mods from if not the Steam Workshop.

                      People would have to actually abandon the convenience and go back to scrolling a bunch of games specific forums for their mods. I don't see that happening unfortunately and I'm pretty sure the executives at the new company know this. It's a common marketing tactic to exploit the sunk cost fallacy.

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                      Nah there's some games that still only have stuff on moddb, thunderstore is the main place for v rising and a few other popular titles, and for Minecraft there's curseforge and modrinth, and GOG is adding mods now too. The community is more fragmented than you'd think

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                      • rodneyck@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                        Oh no, this is never good. How long before they implement a required pay system?

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                        They claimed they won't, but we'll have to see their actions https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15301?comment_id=155643499

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                          A new website will suffer the same fate eventually. The best solution I've seen is CKAN for kerbal space program mods. Each mod just hosts its own releases for free on github or wherever they like, and the whole mod index is just another github repo.

                          https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN?tab=readme-ov-file#whats-the-ckan

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                          The problem with that it's not "wherever they like", it is github 99% of the time. It is easier to fix when github enshitifies completely, but it will still require fixing

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                            https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/1lcyzxz/nexus_mods_was_acquired_by_chosen_a_company/

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                            Q&A here: https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15301

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                            Yeah that's about what I expected. Fucking hell.

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                              They'll probably implement a daily/hourly download limit like MEGA does. So, for example, you can download 1000000000 small mods of some kbs, but the limit is 5 GB, so the mod bundle for big games is virtually limited to premium users.

                              They'll probably try to change the lifetime subscription(the biggest sin in capitalism, how do you make infinite money without doing nothing if people can buy subscription once?), making it useless compared to the premium premium subscription.

                              Paid mods I think are unlikely, why bother to make a change so unpopular? Milk this shit for a decade and press this button only when shit hits the fan.

                              Is a enshification process not so painful so the vast majority will not bother to look for alternatives.

                              In other words: We're doomed.

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                              People make mods to be played surely, why bother using a platform if no one can play your mod from it.

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                                People make mods to be played surely, why bother using a platform if no one can play your mod from it.

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                                ? Same reason people use shit platforms? I can't barely watch Twitch with 3 ads in a row every 30min and they still are the biggest streaming platform even when is shitty to the users and streamers. It's a community based platform unless the community move to other place they still be big because people is there.

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                                  Federation would allow you to only host mods not hosted at other servers, with some level of redundancy.

                                  Also, it could use a modding app with BitTorrent-like functionality, so that downloaders could share their copies as well.

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                                  So..old mods or mods for uninteresting and obscure games would eventually die because of zero seeders.

                                  I know there's no easy answer for this question but this would happen. Just try looking on the p2P scene for an unpopular or extremely niche tv show. There's usually zero or sometimes in a rare occasion less than 3 seeders

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                                    Care to explain in what way?
                                    I've been a casual user of the side for a few years now and except the short waiting times for downloads and endorsement reminders there has been nothing to really frustrate me.

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                                    I haven't used it in the last several years, but from about 2014-2018 any time I tried to download, it required registration, and any time I tried to register, it just didn't work. It was some problem with the javascript in their site. Probably related to captcha or something. Yes, I tried multiple computers, multiple browsers, even tried registering on a library's computer.

                                    Looks like their site is less shit now, but it's still awful.

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                                      Welp. Almost all of the conversations I've read about this change have devolved into "hopefully the new owners don't enforce their political views."

                                      They always say shit like "if you don't like a mod, don't use it," but they can't wrap their heads around the idea that if they can't tolerate the (ex-)site owner exercising his own moral beliefs, they can find a different platform.

                                      Fun.

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                                        80lv (3D industry news media) reports some digging on the company bought Nexus Mod.
                                        https://80.lv/articles/exclusive-nexus-mods-was-apparently-bought-by-a-shady-corporate-entity

                                        Not exaxtly noteworthy info there though, it's just some no name, 6 month old, likely VC-funded company with zero transparency.

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                                          The problem with that it's not "wherever they like", it is github 99% of the time. It is easier to fix when github enshitifies completely, but it will still require fixing

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                                          If it works with any git platform, you have several alternatives + self hosting.

                                          The chokepoint is the index, but if the mod repo is up and you have the url by some other way, it should work

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