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New Lemmy meta just dropped..

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  • S [email protected]

    Ok, someone please help me. The definition of meta changed, and I no longer understand it.

    It used to be an adjective, now it's a noun?

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    It's from video games. People started using it because you might have an optimal strategy but then people started using strategies to counter the optimal strategy. A meta strategy. It makes sense when you have PvP but it's also used to indicate general strategy now. Meta might change if the game changes or if someone figures out a more optimal strategy. So it means "the currently perceived optimal strategy, taking into account other strategies".

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      Nicole fell off, millions of lemmings must conspiracize!

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        I remember seeing some posts by that user. Genuine schizoposting.

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          It's from video games. People started using it because you might have an optimal strategy but then people started using strategies to counter the optimal strategy. A meta strategy. It makes sense when you have PvP but it's also used to indicate general strategy now. Meta might change if the game changes or if someone figures out a more optimal strategy. So it means "the currently perceived optimal strategy, taking into account other strategies".

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          Oh. So they just noun-ified the adjective. Neat. I like it.

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          • S [email protected]

            Ok, someone please help me. The definition of meta changed, and I no longer understand it.

            It used to be an adjective, now it's a noun?

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            It's a shortening of metagame

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              Nicole fell off, millions of lemmings must conspiracize!

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              to me the biggest bummer about lemm.ee shutting down is that when i made my .zip account i lost my messages from nicole.

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                It's from video games. People started using it because you might have an optimal strategy but then people started using strategies to counter the optimal strategy. A meta strategy. It makes sense when you have PvP but it's also used to indicate general strategy now. Meta might change if the game changes or if someone figures out a more optimal strategy. So it means "the currently perceived optimal strategy, taking into account other strategies".

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                I'm pretty sure that form of meta doesn't actually have anything to do with the prefix/adjective. In games it's just an acronym for "most effective tactic available" i.e. in your example the first strategy would be called "the meta" until the second one came along.

                edit: I realize you kinda mention acronym thing at the end of your comment. Not originating from the prefix "meta-" is my main point though.

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                  I'm pretty sure that form of meta doesn't actually have anything to do with the prefix/adjective. In games it's just an acronym for "most effective tactic available" i.e. in your example the first strategy would be called "the meta" until the second one came along.

                  edit: I realize you kinda mention acronym thing at the end of your comment. Not originating from the prefix "meta-" is my main point though.

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                  This is the first I've ever heard of it being an acronym, and it seems unlikely to me. The origin was around tournaments where there was a degree of changing one's own choices based on the likely match-ups you would face. E.g. for something like magic, if everyone is on a slower control deck, you can take advantage of metagame knowledge and run a aggro deck even if the cards are not quite as powerful in that card pool.

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                    I'm pretty sure that form of meta doesn't actually have anything to do with the prefix/adjective. In games it's just an acronym for "most effective tactic available" i.e. in your example the first strategy would be called "the meta" until the second one came along.

                    edit: I realize you kinda mention acronym thing at the end of your comment. Not originating from the prefix "meta-" is my main point though.

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                    That's absolutely not true. It's a clever backronym, but not the origin of the term.

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                      space alien people.

                      as opposed to land alien people, and the water alien people.

                      checks out.

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                        This is the first I've ever heard of it being an acronym, and it seems unlikely to me. The origin was around tournaments where there was a degree of changing one's own choices based on the likely match-ups you would face. E.g. for something like magic, if everyone is on a slower control deck, you can take advantage of metagame knowledge and run a aggro deck even if the cards are not quite as powerful in that card pool.

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                        Exactly!

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                          Glorp

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