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the cake is a lie

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    Do you not understand after these experiments any experiment from now and on has to go through an ethics committee because we kept being pieces of shits? Youre acting like we didnt have to force people to stop dumping waste in rivers because it was the cheapest solution?

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    In the post we are in 70's.

    Do you need me to draw a spacetime diagram?

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      In the post we are in 70's.

      Do you need me to draw a spacetime diagram?

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      This is a shit post were actually in 2159 and im scared your going back to the capitalist era?

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        If you're enough out of the box, it's not unethical till somebody declares so and you can still debate it.

        You're done with your research before there's any official ruling. It'll just limit the next poor sap doing the same.

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        you're done with your research before there's any official ruling

        This really isn't how science works at all. Results that aren't reproducible and can't be retested under varying conditions are almost completely meaningless. And no way to find out if it's (justly or not doesn't even matter) decided that you can't do that kind of experiment shortly after your single one experiment is over.

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          Also, every other question to your patient should be:

          "And then you were sexually exploited by a satanic cult, right? Right?! I'm pretty sure you were.

          Anyway, what're you doing after this?"

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            This is just Stanford in any decade

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              This is just Stanford in any decade

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              Funnily enough, the Stanford Prison experiment was pretty much just an act, with both parties encouraged to act the way they did. It's been discredited nowadays.

              A better analogy would be the Milgram experiment(s). Often repeated, breaking certain ethical rules (e.g. not telling your test subjects the whole truth about the experiment), with the result of some test subjects taking their own life from the sheer realisation of what they did, and yet the experiment still stands uncontested in its results.

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                Funnily enough, the Stanford Prison experiment was pretty much just an act, with both parties encouraged to act the way they did. It's been discredited nowadays.

                A better analogy would be the Milgram experiment(s). Often repeated, breaking certain ethical rules (e.g. not telling your test subjects the whole truth about the experiment), with the result of some test subjects taking their own life from the sheer realisation of what they did, and yet the experiment still stands uncontested in its results.

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                Stanford had the "predict if people are gay from a photo" from that guy that was buddies with Putin. And I think they also had an asshole who did a bunch of work on trying to determine, again, gay from DNA. That guy was actually gay himself.

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                  Funnily enough, the Stanford Prison experiment was pretty much just an act, with both parties encouraged to act the way they did. It's been discredited nowadays.

                  A better analogy would be the Milgram experiment(s). Often repeated, breaking certain ethical rules (e.g. not telling your test subjects the whole truth about the experiment), with the result of some test subjects taking their own life from the sheer realisation of what they did, and yet the experiment still stands uncontested in its results.

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                  Theranos. Silicon Valley.

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                    Stanford had the "predict if people are gay from a photo" from that guy that was buddies with Putin. And I think they also had an asshole who did a bunch of work on trying to determine, again, gay from DNA. That guy was actually gay himself.

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                    Honestly, that's news to me. Mind linking it? Might be interesting to read about it.

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                      Theranos. Silicon Valley.

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                      I mean, Theranos was less classic ethical nightmare as it was just a grift, separating suckers from their money. A possible more fitting example in the same vein would be Roger Wakefield's "studies" on how the MMR vaccines cause autism., where actual children got harmed and spurred on the antivax movement.

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