is there is any Lemmy server that care about privacy(does not require email), Does not impose limits on community posts like my current instance and does not have high amount of restrictions?
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Noice. One less negative person.
Funny, that's what I was thinking as I blocked your spammy ass!
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Lets say you find an instance that meets your requirements, given the lack of email validation, what's going to happen is that instance will be host to trolls and spammers, top to bottom, and then it will get defederated from the rest of lemmy.
My instance does not require email validation and so far I have zero spammers or bots. There is one thing I am doing different than everyone else. Can you guess what it is?
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For the first problem, just use a throwaway email service (I like temp-mail.org) to make your account.
What's stopping spammers/scammers/bots to do the same thing?
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Funny, that's what I was thinking as I blocked your spammy ass!
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Noice, Two less negative people.
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I don't see how required an email means they don't care about privacy.
I agree. If you're worried about it, set up a free gmail account to use for validation, problem solved.
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You don't need 5 posts a day for a community to survive here. There's not that many people on Lemmy, things are a bit slower paced.
I mod [email protected] and we'd be lucky to have one post per day, yet I think it's still a relatively healthy community, with a decent amount of engagement on most posts.
You don’t need 5 posts a day for a community to survive here
"Surving" != "Thriving".
A couple of years ago, I noticed that the front page of HackerNews was consistently getting links from Mastodon posts. That was interesting because it showed that at least one significant part of the tech conversation had moved away from Twitter and into the Fediverse.
No such thing has happened for Lemmy. There is no particular community which is thriving. There is no example of subreddit community that had successfully boycotted Reddit and transplanted here. We have the usual handful of posters, each one trying to maintain their communities "alive", but that is far from its true potential.
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More than 5 posts would raise the likelihood of people blocking that instance because of spam. Less is more.
As long as they're not back to back I don't mind. But what I HATE is people that spam out like 30 posts in one go. I don't want an entire page to be posts from one person/community.
I especially hate it when it's the exact same link, but different communities (shouldn't be an issue for OP, but I hate that shit). Lemmy really needs to fix that. I don't mind people cross posting 30 times, but I only want to see the same link once per page.
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What's stopping spammers/scammers/bots to do the same thing?
Nothing at all. That's why we have captchas.
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As long as they're not back to back I don't mind. But what I HATE is people that spam out like 30 posts in one go. I don't want an entire page to be posts from one person/community.
I especially hate it when it's the exact same link, but different communities (shouldn't be an issue for OP, but I hate that shit). Lemmy really needs to fix that. I don't mind people cross posting 30 times, but I only want to see the same link once per page.
Omg, I agree. I hate seeing the same article posted to 10 different instances all lined up in a row.
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I don't see how required an email means they don't care about privacy.
Then you don't understand privacy
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I agree. If you're worried about it, set up a free gmail account to use for validation, problem solved.
You mean those free email accounts that actively scrape your emails for data?
Is everybody here just on crazy pills today?
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What's stopping spammers/scammers/bots to do the same thing?
Usually sites will blacklist all temp providers, lemmy doesn't seem to care. The only reason we don't look overrun with bots now is that they've gotten a lot better and appearing human in the last year
But yeah, mods and admins only give lip service to dealing with bots, as per usual
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You mean those free email accounts that actively scrape your emails for data?
Is everybody here just on crazy pills today?
But if you only use that email account for authentication to the system and it's not tied to you, they have no way of tying it back to you. It's just an anonymous email address.
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But if you only use that email account for authentication to the system and it's not tied to you, they have no way of tying it back to you. It's just an anonymous email address.
that now has your IP address and your host string, as well as matching your ID to any sales trackers you happen to have, basically all you need to uniquely identify a user across sessions
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You mean those free email accounts that actively scrape your emails for data?
Is everybody here just on crazy pills today?
They’re saying “free” email services. What they mean are disposable e-mail services. You go to a website, they provide you with a random e-mail address. You enter that address into the form, check for the verification code on the disposable e-mail site and you’re done with the disposable e-mail. You never visit the disposable site again. Do a search for “disposable email”.
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Nothing at all. That's why we have captchas.
What makes you think that captchas are effective against spammers signing up to the service?
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Usually sites will blacklist all temp providers, lemmy doesn't seem to care. The only reason we don't look overrun with bots now is that they've gotten a lot better and appearing human in the last year
But yeah, mods and admins only give lip service to dealing with bots, as per usual
mods and admins only give lip service to dealing with bots
"You get what you pay for.", evidence #103.
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that now has your IP address and your host string, as well as matching your ID to any sales trackers you happen to have, basically all you need to uniquely identify a user across sessions
If you're truly worried about that, turn the Internet off and never come back. What you are asking is impossible.
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I've noticed you tend to always assume the worst before even trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
There are very legitimate reasons to not want to give your email to any random website that asks. They can be hacked, the instance might be a front for some data aggregator, etc. And if your response is "just use a masking service" or "just use a disposable email address", then what is the point of validating the email address in the first place?
Admins add email verification because this is one extra layer of protection against automated bots, but this is far from a guarantee they are protected. It might help them to give some paper trail in case someone does something nasty on their servers, but the best they can do is take an (easy to create) email address and report to the authorities along with the IP address.
Compare with an instance that only accepts paying members:
- no bot or spammer will be interested in paying a few dollars per month to send messages
- if some spammer is stupid enough to sign up to the service and sends clear spam, then we point the ToS to them, kick them out and they will be left without any money
- we have a much stronger paper trail (credit card payments, bank transfers) in case some user does something nasty.
I think your approach is a good one to ensure real users, reduce spam, and for the admins to be compensated for the service they provide. However, is giving your credit card or bank transfer information to a website less risky or more privacy-focused (one of OP's goals) than giving an email address?
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that now has your IP address and your host string, as well as matching your ID to any sales trackers you happen to have, basically all you need to uniquely identify a user across sessions
All pretty easy to circumvent if you understand privacy. Guess you don't..
