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  • P [email protected]

    Every "liberal" city that I've lived in has had these, or a variant. So I'd have to say yes, it is liberalism in action

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    What makes those cities liberal?

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      the thing about Democrats and 'liberals' is that its a broad coalition of ideologies and political groups competing for power and having to compromise. we all want to bring about our vision of society and help people, but small differences lead to huge schisms. also, monied interests have undue amounts of power over our institutions.

      conservatives on the other hand are completely united by cruelty and adherence to rigid heirarchies (in spite of how dysfunctional they are), and basically the only issues they ever have in their own base is that something isn't causing enough pain to people they hate.

      i feel it is important to hold our representatives accountable, but saying things like both sides are exactly the same or complaining about liberals as if they are one cohesive entity has no value outside of pushing people away from politics. there are VERY specific people and groups that are making very bad decisions for Americans, like AIPAC or other big donors that simultaneously fund people like Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump

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      Both sides currently yell and scream at anyone that doesn’t agree with them unequivocally. I don’t agree with everything liberal, and a few conservative viewpoints I do agree with. But for the most part I consider myself to be a moderate.

      But vocalizing that I disagree with how to do something and both sides will either call me a libtard or a MAGAt.

      This is something both sides have an issue with. So stop saying both sides is wrong. Here is an example that disproves that statement completely.

      All I want is a party by and for the people. Not billionaires. Done with idiocracy and insanity.

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        Amazingly, you think because someone has a mental illness that they chose to live on the street.

        No, I don’t. I’m a therapist that works at a mental health clinic, so I’d wager I have a better understanding of the psychosocial conditions affecting these people than you do. And I know the feeling psychosocial impacts have on the homeless better than you do. I’ve seen and worked with people living on the street. Can you claim to have the same experience?

        Jesus Christ, do you even know what you’re talking about?

        I’m not going to waste my time with you, because you haven’t demonstrated you have even an inkling of an understanding of what you’re dealing with.

        Get educated before you spout off, nitwit.

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        Says they are a therapist and that they know better than anyone. Doesn't know anything about me.

        HOW EMBARRASSING IT MUST BE FOR YOU TO EXIST.

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          My knowledge is limited to a short wikipedia scan, but I didn't see any reason to doubt they do it. Feel free to link some info if you know better.

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          https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=not+enough+homeless+shelters&ia=web

          Re your other comment: do you think there are only 2000 homeless kids in North America? What they're doing isn't even close to enough, by multiple orders of magnitude.

          The disparity between demand and supply is so vast it feels like the government isn't even trying.

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            You’re stupid if you think this is the effect anti-homeless architecture is having in the places it’s being implemented. They have very little impact to begin with. I don’t pretend to think that shelters can’t be improved, but if people refuse to utilize the resources we have, we must either come up with new resources or reevaluate our investments in the resources we currently employ.

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            Hey maybe I'm stupid too, but it seems to me it'd be way fucking easier and cheaper to just put some flyers in a little letterbox attached to the bench advertising the nearest homeless shelter or something, rather than inconveniencing literally everyone who wants to use the bench. But what do I know, I'm probably just stupid

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              Amazingly, you think because someone has a mental illness that they chose to live on the street.

              No, I don’t. I’m a therapist that works at a mental health clinic, so I’d wager I have a better understanding of the psychosocial conditions affecting these people than you do. And I know the feeling psychosocial impacts have on the homeless better than you do. I’ve seen and worked with people living on the street. Can you claim to have the same experience?

              Jesus Christ, do you even know what you’re talking about?

              I’m not going to waste my time with you, because you haven’t demonstrated you have even an inkling of an understanding of what you’re dealing with.

              Get educated before you spout off, nitwit.

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              I've actually been homeless. Have you?

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                How would sleeping on that bench be any better than the ground even without the arms? If it was cold at all you would freeze from below.

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                • P [email protected]

                  Both sides currently yell and scream at anyone that doesn’t agree with them unequivocally. I don’t agree with everything liberal, and a few conservative viewpoints I do agree with. But for the most part I consider myself to be a moderate.

                  But vocalizing that I disagree with how to do something and both sides will either call me a libtard or a MAGAt.

                  This is something both sides have an issue with. So stop saying both sides is wrong. Here is an example that disproves that statement completely.

                  All I want is a party by and for the people. Not billionaires. Done with idiocracy and insanity.

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                  All I want is a party by and for the people

                  Never going to happen.

                  Political parties are run by the wealthy elite, not "the people"

                  There's nothing to allow for a candidate who is sincere but not connected to big money to succeed at anything but the most local of elections.

                  If someone were to win a bigger federal level election with word of mouth and no money, be sure that whatever social media platform that allowed their word to go out and grow was on their side and working in the shadows of their 'formula' that promotes some content over others.

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                    How would sleeping on that bench be any better than the ground even without the arms? If it was cold at all you would freeze from below.

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                    Hygiene.

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                    • nutwrench@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                      A liberal didn't build that bench.

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                      What makes you think that? Do these not exist in blue states?

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                        https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=not+enough+homeless+shelters&ia=web

                        Re your other comment: do you think there are only 2000 homeless kids in North America? What they're doing isn't even close to enough, by multiple orders of magnitude.

                        The disparity between demand and supply is so vast it feels like the government isn't even trying.

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                        Do you think there's only 1 charity in north America? What a weird argument to make.

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                        • beardedblaze@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                          I've actually been homeless. Have you?

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                          The time you went to Starbucks and left your keys inside your house doesn't count, Brian

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                            Get educated before you spout off, nitwit.

                            Oh, the irony! 🤣

                            You do realize you're just embarrassing yourself all over this thread, right?

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                            Ah yes, sharing they have experience working with homeless, how embarrassed they must be

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                              How do you know they were leftists? I don't know where you are from, but it's been known that bots and foreign powers have been attempting to influence U.S. elections since at least Trumps first term, and let's be honest it's extremely likely that it has been going on for far longer than that.

                              Biden IS pro genocide, So is Harris, So is Trump. I don't think it's bad to point that out. Using it as a reason to vote for a Fascist instead is loony tunes, and as someone who frequents Leftist spaces I can tell you not a single person on reddit or Lemmy proposed any such nonsense who was taken seriously and wasn't' immediately down-voted into oblivion.

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                              Their talking points were the typical that are considered "leftist" in America (and centrist in Europe): universal Healthcare, free education/forgiving student debt, etc. Whether they were bots or not is impossible to say in this day and age.

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                                An angle grinder would make short work of those "arm rests."

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                                If you don't do it perfectly, it'll leave sharp edges.

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                                  Why do you believe I see homeless people as less than myself? Quite a lot of people are only a short term breakdown away from being homeless, especially in ultra capitalist places like the US. Certainly they need help, but help is not always directly available, and you want to argue that while they look for help, making the world as hostile as possible is a good thing? And then you try to gaslight me with that? I think you need help.

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                                  Well you do seem Keen to insist in enabling a dangerous and damaging behavior in them

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                                    Fuck you.

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                                    Ah yes, petty insults

                                    The leftist huckster's crutch

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                                      I would prefer shelter and no anti-homeless architecture. But I get that you prefer anti-homeless architecture and no shelter, since we're being uncharitable.

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                                      I live in a country where if you don't have a job the government will pay for your rent and utilities, indefinitely.

                                      Additionally, I have a deal with them as well: If they don't sleep on the benches I will not sit in their beds. Works wonders.

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                                        pros of sleeping on concrete: heat from underground. cons: mice

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                                          Ive always put it in the very crude fashion of "They are both going to fuck us, but one of them spits on it and goes in gentle the other one wants us to struggle."

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                                          Personally, I'd go with the idea that the Democrats are the ones who fight for brightly-colored warning signs, guardrails, and PPE for the operators of the orphan crushing machine.

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