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    this shit is so fucking funny bro

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      Looks like they invented chain-mail right along with it.

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        Approximately 500,000 years ago, when someone made a tiny spear. They just didn't know it was an arrow at the time.

        I mean what is an arrow, but a much smaller spear?

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        In my archaeology/anthropology classes in college, we were taught to say “projectile points” instead of “arrowheads” for basically this reason.

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          Looks like they invented chain-mail right along with it.

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          Image is probably scale armor rather than chainmail.

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            They rely on artifacts and art. So yeah, it's quite possible the bow was invented earlier, probably a bunch of times in a bunch of places.

            People are smart, but we're smart in pretty regular and repeatable ways.

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            i'd also say there's a difference between people making notches in a stick and tying a piece of string to it, and actually carving a bow and drying it.

            Anyone can come up with the idea for and build a simple bow to test their idea, but figuring out how to make a proper bow takes iteration and is an investment.

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              12025 Primitive Era: BC mythology as metrology

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                There were those little flinger things that they'd put little spears on. Those might be considered proto arrows.

                Yeah, atlatls had fletched arrows

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                Thanks, had forgotten "atlatl," gonna try it in NYT Spelling Bee next time it has those letters.

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                  This fucking guy thinks he can just bring back a joke from 8998 BC and make it work!

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                    Blah blah bc time is backward, 9,000 is older than 8,999, now that we have that out of the way I wonder how they calculate the invention of the bow. Like they just haven't found one anywhere older then that. It's just green sticks and ropes at some point. Wonder what the chances are there was something prior that we don't know because it wasn't built long enough to last.

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                    9000+ BC - no arrow heads

                    8999 BC to present - butt loads of arrowheads

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                      This fucking guy thinks he can just bring back a joke from 8998 BC and make it work!

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                      Something that has never occurred since time immemorial - a young woman did not fart on her husband's lap! ʱªʱªʱª(˃̣̣̥˂̣̣̥)

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                      • swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

                        i'd also say there's a difference between people making notches in a stick and tying a piece of string to it, and actually carving a bow and drying it.

                        Anyone can come up with the idea for and build a simple bow to test their idea, but figuring out how to make a proper bow takes iteration and is an investment.

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                        also bowstring is a hell of a lot more sturdy than twine. probably took a lot of different iteration to find the right fiber/gut to use for the string, the right wood, just beyond getting the idea

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                          also bowstring is a hell of a lot more sturdy than twine. probably took a lot of different iteration to find the right fiber/gut to use for the string, the right wood, just beyond getting the idea

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                          Nettle fibres are pretty easy to make into a string that would be suitable for using with a bow. Making a bow is a lot easier than making the perfect bow. It would have been an iterative process, improving over time.

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                            There were those little flinger things that they'd put little spears on. Those might be considered proto arrows.

                            Yeah, atlatls had fletched arrows

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                            Would love to do some atlatl throwing again, not really sure if there is a way to legally do it in the park or somewhere like that though and my garden is far too short for it.

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                              When were arrows invented, though?

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                              About three years into Youtube. Everybody missed this Easter egg.

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                                Would love to do some atlatl throwing again, not really sure if there is a way to legally do it in the park or somewhere like that though and my garden is far too short for it.

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                                I wonder if a local archery range would let you do it. Probably have to byoa though

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                                  I wonder if a local archery range would let you do it. Probably have to byoa though

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                                  I looked up a while back, the nearest NFAS club is miles away and not sure if they would allow atlatls or not.

                                  You can get rubber blunt arrowheads though, pretty sure that could be used in public just fine as its not like its a weapon. Go for a quiet spot so that no one is really aware of it in the first place and they can't complain.

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                                    Blah blah bc time is backward, 9,000 is older than 8,999, now that we have that out of the way I wonder how they calculate the invention of the bow. Like they just haven't found one anywhere older then that. It's just green sticks and ropes at some point. Wonder what the chances are there was something prior that we don't know because it wasn't built long enough to last.

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                                    There’s always big error bars on these dates for that kind of reason. Actual archeologists are going to be careful with their language and say things like “the earliest evidence we have for bows is around 9000 BCE.”

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                                      9000+ BC - no arrow heads

                                      8999 BC to present - butt loads of arrowheads

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                                      We have "arrowheads" as old as 72000 years old. Some found outside of Africa are 40ish thousand years old. We're not certain what these objects are, but we're pretty sure they're arrowheads.

                                      The oldest evidence for a bow we've found is only 9000 years old. But if you think about what a bow is made of, it stands to reason that we wouldn't find one much older than that.

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                                        Blah blah bc time is backward, 9,000 is older than 8,999, now that we have that out of the way I wonder how they calculate the invention of the bow. Like they just haven't found one anywhere older then that. It's just green sticks and ropes at some point. Wonder what the chances are there was something prior that we don't know because it wasn't built long enough to last.

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                                        They may have been mentioned/featured in things that last longer than the bows. Statues, pottery, writing on stone tablets.

                                        Also I think they find skeletons with flint arrowheads in them sometimes too.

                                        So it can be pieced together from lots of small, even partial data points.

                                        But we find new stuff all the time that changes what we thought.

                                        They found a 4000 year old bagless vacuum cleaner the other day.

                                        That last one was a joke.

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                                          When were arrows invented, though?

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                                          About 300 years after the invention of the bow, which is crazy.

                                          It meant that the value of archers was really low from a military point of view. Those nerds were useless.

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