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We should respond to these people as what they are, domestic terrorists.
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Buy some guns and do it to them then.
It's America
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The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.
The majority of citizens are not "fine" with it, we are watching the results of the capture of every branch of government.
The template for this actually played out in Texas. Texas has a very weak governors office in terms of formal powers. Under George W Bush the Republican party systematically took control of each state office and coordinated their efforts to effect the agenda of Bush, Perry, and now Abbott.
They are doing the same thing at the federal level with project 2025 under Trump, they took the supreme court, and now they have removed the career civil servants that would refuse illegal orders from Trump.
If history of other dictatorships is any guide the powers of ICE will be expanded steadily and the other law enforcement agencies and military will be continually overshadowed by ICE and eventually subordinated to them, like the Republican guard of Iran or the SS in Nazi Germany.
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Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?
Isn't this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?
Hey dumbass, it turns out that:
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Each state has its own laws about this. Where I live the same state constitution that ALSO specifically grants us the right to own firearms for self defense explicitly forbids belonging to any private militia.
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My part (Democrats) is so overwhelmingly anti gun that 99% of aren’t armed to begin with. So precious militia you’re smugly pretending to ask about? Yeah you’re looking at them in the post to begin with. They’re all boot licking fascists.
Nice try though, pretending disarming Americans is the answer to anything other than more deportations, more oppression, and so on.
I’ll give you this: literally neither side gives a shit about the actual underlying problem: mental health. Over half of ALL gun deaths in the USA each year are from suicide. You don’t need an AR15 for that. Banning and removing all guns successfully won’t stop all those people wanting to be dead, but my fellow Democrats don’t care and the fascists sure don’t.
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Too quick. And someone will need to clean the wall.
Nope. Leave the stains as an example for future fascists to reconsider their position.
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Hey dumbass, it turns out that:
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Each state has its own laws about this. Where I live the same state constitution that ALSO specifically grants us the right to own firearms for self defense explicitly forbids belonging to any private militia.
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My part (Democrats) is so overwhelmingly anti gun that 99% of aren’t armed to begin with. So precious militia you’re smugly pretending to ask about? Yeah you’re looking at them in the post to begin with. They’re all boot licking fascists.
Nice try though, pretending disarming Americans is the answer to anything other than more deportations, more oppression, and so on.
I’ll give you this: literally neither side gives a shit about the actual underlying problem: mental health. Over half of ALL gun deaths in the USA each year are from suicide. You don’t need an AR15 for that. Banning and removing all guns successfully won’t stop all those people wanting to be dead, but my fellow Democrats don’t care and the fascists sure don’t.
LOL. My point was, when you have come down of your high horse, that the opponents of gun control hide behind the Second Amendment and the need to protect themselves from government overreach, but those are the exact same people who jump up to volunteer to do that exact bit of overreach.
Plus I get to have a little dig at your country's ridiculous gun laws at the same time.
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My Army training would kick in, and I would shoot the terrorists.
/c/iamverybadass
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I can't wait for the trial about it gunning them down is self defense,
if it is a trump appointed judge, then it will clearly be considered illegal, which mean the whole point of 2nd amendment (defend against a tryranic government is BS)
or reasonable judge, which will determine it is self defence, then let the fun begin.
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LOL. My point was, when you have come down of your high horse, that the opponents of gun control hide behind the Second Amendment and the need to protect themselves from government overreach, but those are the exact same people who jump up to volunteer to do that exact bit of overreach.
Plus I get to have a little dig at your country's ridiculous gun laws at the same time.
opponents of gun control hide behind the second amendment
What? That doesn't even make any sense. Anti-Gun folks continually make laws against the second amendment (Imo, I know this is gonna get a lot of flack here but that's not the point.
The second amendment protects the rights of civilians owning guns. And folks who are pro-gun tend to overwhelmingly lean right after years of bastardization from the left.
Maybe actually read the second amendment, and the arguments made by both parties before you "take a little dig"
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Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about
So, one could argue that the well regulated militia in question is constituted by the National Guard, as they nominally are the armed forces of individual States, and can be nationalized under certain circumstances.
Except for the fact that Trump just nationalized the California National Guard when he's nominally not supposed to....
One should argue that. Even though the national guard acts as a branch of the military, technically they are whats considered a "organized milita" and are actually under the control of the state government
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...as opposed to a magical jail cell which requires no cleaning?
Which the occupants can clean themselves.
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They are just puppets. There are bigger fish.
SEND IN THE ARMY! CAUSE WE HAVE CONTROL (hopefully speaker of the house isn't nazi)
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Perhaps the only valid use for glitter
The diet version of Brad Pitt making a swastika scar on nazi foreheads so they can't take it off like their uniforms in inglorious bastards.
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There's like no difference between them and these guys.
That's not true, those guys are carrying the wrong type of gun!
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I imagine South Africa would complain. They don't want him back.
Drop him in the ocean off the cape. I'm sure something in there would want him.
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they are, at the very least, not performing these kidnappings in “open carry”/“constitutional” states. For obvious reasons.
They are now leaving farming and roofing guys alone because the Tysons and Blackrocks are getting nervous about labor shortages.
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Why aren't masked and armed individuals with weapons and no badges, that make attempts to abduct people, being shot?
Never have I hoped the L.A street gangs just take this matter into their own hands
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Drop him in the ocean off the cape. I'm sure something in there would want him.
Don't they send them to El Salvador or the Congo?
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Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?
Isn't this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?
This has been asked many, many times. Most of them are on Drumpy's side. The same fucks on Jan6.
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Buy some guns and do it to them then.
It's America
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I mean, honestly, even without violence, this would be a fantastic protest technique. Imagine if whenever there was an ICE raid, there were hundreds of people dressed indistinguishably from the ICE thugs. Normally this doesn't work at protests. If you put on a fake LAPD uniform, they'll arrest you for impersonating a police officer. But since these thugs aren't in uniform, then you're not impersonating an officer by dressing like them.
"ICE thug" should be the standard uniform for every protester. Watch as their raids collapse into absolute chaos as they can't figure out who is actually on their team. Watch as the police thugs escorting ICE get completely confused as they don't know who to shoot their rubber bullets and tear gas at. Just imagine protesters milling about in active raid scenes, walking in like they own the place, giving contradictory orders to ICE foot soldiers, etc. Hell, the protesters could "detain" many of the people being seized, load them into unmarked vans, drive them a mile away, and then just let them go.
This can be weaponized, all without using actual weapons. Protesters could dress up like these ICE thugs and completely destroy their operations. ICE have forgotten that cops wear uniforms not just to protect the public, but also so that cops can tell who is actually a police officer.
It's time ICE learned exactly why police wear uniforms. By not wearing uniforms, they've made themselves comically vulnerable to mass disruption by nonviolent protesters. They've completely destroyed their own chain of command, and they are vulnerable.
