Transatlantic airfares slump as Western Europeans skip US travel over Trump
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Why would you want to go to the US?
We suck but we do have some cool shit.
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Why would you want to go to the US?
There's some cool nature there I'd like to see, so that's one reason
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Bruh. It's likely to be never. We aren't recovering from this.
I live in Canada. I used to visit the States probably every other year. Then Trump was elected in 2016, and I stopped going. Then covid happened, so I figured I'd wait a bit longer. And now it'll be another 3 years until I even consider it, but that largely depends on what happens in that time span. It's not out of the question to just never visit again. There are plenty of other places in the world that I haven't seen yet.
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Why would you want to go to the US?
The US is gigantic we've got something for everyone here. In particular there are massive national forests with trails of any size you can think of (the Palouse Cascades trail goes from Seattle all the way to Idaho it's 300 miles long, the Appalachian trail takes months to hike the full distance). We've also got a lot of different cultures to explore, foods to eat, and history to see.
For sure don't come here currently our government is dangerous and we don't deserve tourist money. There are lots of reasons why someone might want to come to the US though.
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Why would you want to go to the US?
There are so many excellent reasons to visit the US... just not necessarily right now.
Our cities are fun to explore and have great restaurants and museums. Most need a car to explore, unfortunately, but some don't. Our nature is honestly amazing. From forests to deserts to mountains to beaches to lakes and rivers. Yes, other places have some of those, but not many countries have all of those.
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Work wanted me to go to the US for a thing and thankfully I had family reasons for being able to say no. I'm not setting foot in that country in a long time.
Yeah, a friend of mine literally told them "I'd rather let you fire me than end up in El Salvador".
They didn't fire him. The US client was infuriated, but now they meet in Canada or London.
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There are so many excellent reasons to visit the US... just not necessarily right now.
Our cities are fun to explore and have great restaurants and museums. Most need a car to explore, unfortunately, but some don't. Our nature is honestly amazing. From forests to deserts to mountains to beaches to lakes and rivers. Yes, other places have some of those, but not many countries have all of those.
There's trash everywhere in the nature areas.
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Most people book this kind of holiday a year in advance. The people still coming to the US booked their holidays last year. There's going to be an enormous impact by next year.
I love the US, spent a lot of time there, worked there for years, I have family there. I'm not going back until Trump is gone and there is some kind normality returned - which might be a long time.
Trump is just the pustule on a very deep zit. It won't be over without some serious reform.
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I wanted to go to the US since the eighties but I couldn't afford it back then. By the time I could afford it, 9/11 had rolled around together with the suspension of civil rights and all the associated insanity. Then I thought I'd wait for sanity to return. I'm still waiting and I'm getting increasingly pessimistic I'll live to see that.
Come to Canada instead! The food isn't loaded with corn syrup!
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There's some cool nature there I'd like to see, so that's one reason
Come to Canada. We have cool nature too but without the risk of being detained for no reason.
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The US is gigantic we've got something for everyone here. In particular there are massive national forests with trails of any size you can think of (the Palouse Cascades trail goes from Seattle all the way to Idaho it's 300 miles long, the Appalachian trail takes months to hike the full distance). We've also got a lot of different cultures to explore, foods to eat, and history to see.
For sure don't come here currently our government is dangerous and we don't deserve tourist money. There are lots of reasons why someone might want to come to the US though.
Hike the Appalachian trail and look at all the trash then get rocky mountain spotter fever or that disease that makes you allergic to red meat from ticks. Then get murdered by a lunatic or robbed at gunpoint.
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But the countries that come after what used to be the USA might be nice.
Yeah the Indepedent Republic of California would be a nice place to visit after they deport all of the the ICE goons.
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There's trash everywhere in the nature areas.
What nature areas are you going to? The US sucks for a lot of reasons you can pick from. No need to make stuff up too
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Come to Canada. We have cool nature too but without the risk of being detained for no reason.
I'd definitely come to Canada over the U.S as it stands today.
In another time, if the U.S manages to beat their fascism-issue, I'd like to go there as well.
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Transatlantic airfares have dropped to rates last seen before the pandemic, data shows, the latest sign that fewer Europeans are traveling to the U.S. due to concerns about U.S. border controls and Donald Trump's policies.
The trend could extend into and beyond the summer holiday period, typically the busiest time for airlines and travel companies.
Overseas arrivals to the United States fell 2.8% in May from a year ago, according to preliminary data from the U.S. National Travel and Tourism Office within the U.S. Department of Commerce. Travel from Western Europe fell 4.4% in May, led by a decline in travelers from Denmark and Germany.
First: deport European tourists, fuck up several times with other deportations to El Salvador concentration camps or African war zone....
"Why don't Europeans come here, do you see how Europe just uses us by emptying American tourists' wallets while not traveling here in return? Europe sucks!"
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Why would you want to go to the US?
Grand Canyon
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Most people book this kind of holiday a year in advance. The people still coming to the US booked their holidays last year. There's going to be an enormous impact by next year.
I love the US, spent a lot of time there, worked there for years, I have family there. I'm not going back until Trump is gone and there is some kind normality returned - which might be a long time.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Trump is a symptom, this isn't getting "better", the shit just gets normalized, then gets worse.
I lived there pre 9/11 for a time, never going back and that's as a cis straight white Gen X dude from Australia.
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Yeah the Indepedent Republic of California would be a nice place to visit after they deport all of the the ICE goons.
The Acadian Union (or whatever New England and the tri-state area become) should be pretty cool too.
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What nature areas are you going to? The US sucks for a lot of reasons you can pick from. No need to make stuff up too
Go to any national or state park, guaranteed trash everywhere.
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Go to any national or state park, guaranteed trash everywhere.
Tell me you've never been to a national park without telling me you've never been to a national park
Of all the opportunities I've had to tell someone to touch grass this one is the most fitting. Fam I'm sorry you've forgotten to go outside but self care is important and I think you could benefit from touching grass
