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    color constancy was not "first investigated" just ten years ago.

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      You can literally sample the rgb values and see it's blue and black

      Edit: am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

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      What is global illumination from sky lighting again ??

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        I'm still convinced this is the biggest troll. It's clearly white and gold

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        Same, I always assume the ppl. Saying it's black and blue are trolling me.

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          those color illusions always wreck my brain

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          This literally clears up nothing for me and I'm about to lose it. It's still fucking blue and black

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            You can literally sample the rgb values and see it's blue and black

            Edit: am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

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            Youโ€™re good. Itโ€™s black and blue. At a pinch, maybe blue and black.

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              Sorry but it's white and gold. The white only gets a blue hue due to the ambient lighting.

              And it never is black!

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                This literally clears up nothing for me and I'm about to lose it. It's still fucking blue and black

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                if you're in a room with yellow lighting, then the "black" actually looks black. but if the lighting in the room is blue, then the "black" looks yellow. it's the different surrounding colors that makes one certain color look like 2 different colors

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                  Yes. The people who see white and gold must not register the yellow indoor light of the picture and are probably very outdoorsy people.

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                  Hm, this is interesting - I am indeed "outdoorsy" and could only see "white and gold in shadow". I think this might also be because of the highlight on the right suggesting that it's daylight all around and the dress is in deep shadow, and the blue color is also highly reminiscent of "white cloth in deep shadow". This XKCD helped me clear up the confusion and now if I squint I can see both color schemes:

                  https://xkcd.com/1492/

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                    Sorry but it's white and gold. The white only gets a blue hue due to the ambient lighting.

                    And it never is black!

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                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress

                    Sorry ๐Ÿ˜ž

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                      You can literally sample the rgb values and see it's blue and black

                      Edit: am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

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                      Where the hell is the black supposed to be? Nothing is that dark here. I can easily accept blue, white, or gold, but there's clearly no black.

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                        If this "viral dress debate" has taught me anything is that you can claim whatever bullshit online and bunch of people will believe it. Post an orange and claim it's blue even though it's clearly orange and there will be a percentage of idiots who will believe that the orange is blue because someone said so. And we'll have virale debate about a fucking orange.

                        Of course there are vision conditions like daltonism and we have variances in perceptions of color gradients, but white and gold doesn't suddenly become blue and black...

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                        I'm curious which color you perceive?

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                          If this "viral dress debate" has taught me anything is that you can claim whatever bullshit online and bunch of people will believe it. Post an orange and claim it's blue even though it's clearly orange and there will be a percentage of idiots who will believe that the orange is blue because someone said so. And we'll have virale debate about a fucking orange.

                          Of course there are vision conditions like daltonism and we have variances in perceptions of color gradients, but white and gold doesn't suddenly become blue and black...

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                          white and gold doesn't suddenly become blue and black...

                          This dress is blue and black ๐Ÿ™„

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                            You can literally sample the rgb values and see it's blue and black

                            Edit: am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

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                            am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

                            The objective fact isโ€ฆit is a blue and black dress. Other photos of the same dress show that.

                            But I cannot, for the life of me, see how anyone can possibly get that from this photo. Sample the RGB values all you want and it clearly is not black in this photo. The exposure and white balance have messed around with it so much it is incomprehensible to me how anyone can see it as blue and black.

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                              You can literally sample the rgb values and see it's blue and black

                              Edit: am I part of the joke here??? It's clearly blue and black...

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                              You can literally sample the rgb values

                              It doesn't matter. This phenomenon can be explained by something called color constancy.

                              I remember some versions of this image where I could literally switch between perceptions at will, when I imagined different surrounding light temperatures/environments.

                              It's a subjective perception.

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                                I can see the blue and black clearly when i tilt the phone screen away from my face... I always see white and gold first, even though I know it isn't.

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                                  I've actually experienced the perceptual shift from blue and black to white and gold. The moment was fleeting, but definitely registered white and gold. And then back to blue and black, and I've never been able to replicate the shift.

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                                  I'm usually pretty good at shifting between the two ways to perceive optical illusions. But for this one I cannot see anything but white and gold. Even knowing that it's actually blue and black, I still see it as that.

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                                    Even more probable than perception variations is just messed up screen settings

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                                      Ha! I saw this and thought "It's clearly white and gold, let's check out the comments" then I read a comment saying it was objectively blue and black, so I scrolled up to take another look, and now I can no longer see the white and gold no matter how hard I try.

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                                        Sorry but it's white and gold. The white only gets a blue hue due to the ambient lighting.

                                        And it never is black!

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                                        I can't see it as anything but white and gold. However, other photos clearly show it is black and blue.

                                        Interestingly, if I'm scrolling past, my brain will sometimes perceive it as black and blue for a fraction of a second. I can normally flip optical illusions at will. This one jams me in the wrong viewing mode.

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                                          This literally clears up nothing for me and I'm about to lose it. It's still fucking blue and black

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                                          The real dress is actually blue and black, yes, but the illustration tries to show how the exact same colours can look different depending on lighting and context.

                                          In the diagram, the dress on the left is strongly blue and black, while the dress on the right is strongly white and yellow.

                                          And yet the connected parts of the dresses with the "pipes" between them show the exact same colour on one dress can look like a different color on the other. The "pipe" is there so you can follow it with your own eyes from one side to the other and observe that it is indeed the same colour on both sides, despite looking very different when observed as part of the whole image.

                                          The point being, how our brains perceive colour is very situationally dependent, and some people assume a different situation than others, hence the differences in perception.

                                          People tend to believe that vision is absolute, that we all have the same eyes and see the same things, but that's absolutely not true. The dress phenomenon occurred because It's not about what your "eyes" see in absolute terms, it's about what your "brain" does with that information.

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