Dear slim
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Are 2000 pounder JDAM dropped on gazan civilian buildings more moral than a cluster bomb?
The moral calculus of bombs is a truly fucked up thing.
If the JDAM is driving a single conventional warhead, it is more ethical than a cluster bomb.
It is common for some of the cluster bomblets to not detonate creating unknown minefields that persist for decades. A single bomb only goes off once.
(This is the ethics of the bomb, not the conflict they're used in)
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While I’d like to see the Iranian people not be subject to Israeli ‘acceptable civilian deaths’ calculus and have their country cucked like Syria/Lybia, I'm also not hype on their government leaders getting that same MAD protection as well, because they absolutely don’t deserve it
You don't build nukes to use them
You build nukes so you don't get nuked
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Okay, but if literal Caucasians from Caucasia don't count as white, then wtf does white even mean.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's anyone who can go out wearing cargo shorts, tall socks, and trainers without being immediately made fun of.
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Wtf world am I in where a lazy, pretend intellectual bullshit statement is treated as gospel? Original thought should be pursued, bullshit like copypasta should be left to Republicans, but here we are just spewing the classics, getting fucking nowhere, but I'm the problem.
Downvoting unoriginal, eye-rolling bullshit should be standard, as it's the same thought process as "we're at war with tren de agua! They're invading with other violent gangs!" Defending the same dumb bullshit is like defending. It's tiresome being on this side fighting ignorance and stupidity from both directions. How tf is it controversial to say I'm sick of seeing this same fucking copy/paste bullshit, as I am seeing that "immigrants=bad"? Stop being lazy. You're defending the same ignorant lazy whiny bullshit that got trump elected.
No fucking wonder we're heading to civil war and losing. Honestly, I welcome it at this point. Posting the same brain-dead quotes and acting like that's resistance? I'm done, I'll just watch the world burn and treat all Americans as hostile. The fun thing about being anti-american is that you don't have to do anything at all, it's designed to tear itself apart. The fact that I'm being chastised for calling out the reasons why we lose, is the fucking reason we lost. Enjoy thunderdome.
So a user drops a common quote and now you want civil war? And you expect anyone reading this drivel to take your belly-aching seriously?
Nobody care that you don't like a quote. Stop crying like a groyper.
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You don't build nukes to use them
You build nukes so you don't get nuked
Depending on who "you" is that, you're mostly right
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They absolutely should open the investigation tho. All war criminals, no matter if Israeli or Iranian belong in prisons, not governments.
They absolutely should not. One sided enforcement is worse than no enforcement for perception of justice and stabilizing geopolitical norms.
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The moral calculus of bombs is a truly fucked up thing.
If the JDAM is driving a single conventional warhead, it is more ethical than a cluster bomb.
It is common for some of the cluster bomblets to not detonate creating unknown minefields that persist for decades. A single bomb only goes off once.
(This is the ethics of the bomb, not the conflict they're used in)
Okay but if it hits a full apartment building, 100% of that bomb goes to killing unaware civilians.
Which is the whole reason cluster munitions are bad.
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While I’d like to see the Iranian people not be subject to Israeli ‘acceptable civilian deaths’ calculus and have their country cucked like Syria/Lybia, I'm also not hype on their government leaders getting that same MAD protection as well, because they absolutely don’t deserve it
The only fuvkers i want to have it less are the protocols larpers.
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Depending on who "you" is that, you're mostly right
Stop pretending iran is less rational than the protocols larpers.
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Stop pretending iran is less rational than the protocols larpers.
Its been, what, 70 years since the last time the protocol larpers dropped a nuke in anger, with thousands of warheads?
You think the Iranian government would wait that long if they had a handful of em?
Yeah, they're less rational. They're less trustworthy. And given how untrustworthy even the best governments are, that's saying something
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Iran "seems to want peace" because they throw weapons and money at terrorist organisations to do their dirty work instead. They are not, and have never been interested in peace, they just don't like having their name associated with the actions, so they hire outside help to murder people instead. With the amount of support through money, weapons and supplies Iran has given the Houthis and Hamas, do you really want them to have access to nuclear weapons?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]throw weapons and money at terror groups to so tgeir dirty work.
Damn. Thats crazy. What uniquely islamic atrocity is this? Imagine if a country with nuclear weapons ever did that!
That would be so fucking crazy And unprecedented.
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Its been, what, 70 years since the last time the protocol larpers dropped a nuke in anger, with thousands of warheads?
You think the Iranian government would wait that long if they had a handful of em?
Yeah, they're less rational. They're less trustworthy. And given how untrustworthy even the best governments are, that's saying something
I don't think the protocols of the elders of zion larp group had them. Afaik the only people to do it in anger were the americans.
Not the most stable bunch, but disarming them would take a while.
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gazan civilian tents
Excuse me, the preferred nomenclature is "hamas bunkers" and I'll report you to the ADL if you continue with your antisemitism.
Most unnecessary /s ever.
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Well that's because I'm an actual person with actual intellectual thought and not an AI or a braindead liberal posting meme comments. It's interesting that the person above my comment, posted a meme comment, on a complaint about meme comments. Again proving my point. Don't regurgitate bullshit and interact with people on a real level and we have a chance at clawing this country back. Sorry to say but we need angry classic Republicans to join our side if we're to defeat maga. We need to bring them to our side to defeat fascism and it's fucking infuriating that people think snarky copypasta is the way to do it.
So many people consider themselves intellectually above the MAGAts by making fun of their posting trends, and then they celebrate copypasta? It's the same ignorant, weak and ineffectual shit that the Rs do with their 3 word sentences with all caps. It's less than nothing. Use new language.
You're talking about interacting with people on a real level, but you are doing it over the internet. You actually want to make a change? It starts offline.
Also, this is an overall post about how Israel demands international law protect them while binding anyone they choose to bomb. Democrats, actual party officials and leadership, agree with those demands just as much as Republicans.
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Cluster bomb =/= carpet bomb.
Carpet bomb is indiscriminately bombing the shit out of a huge area.
Cluster bomb is a specific bomb that releases many smaller bombs. The biggest issue with cluster bombs in how many of the bomblets dont detonate on impact. Because now there is just live munitions laying around which result in collateral damage at a later time
oops. thanks for the correction.
but what i meant was israel says "iran cluster bombed us" and the world seems to say "ok, it must be true"
i'm not saying it didn't happen--i wouldn't be surprised if iran cluster bombed (or carpet bombed) israel, but i also wouldn't be surprised it israel is lying. again.
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They absolutely should open the investigation tho. All war criminals, no matter if Israeli or Iranian belong in prisons, not governments.
Except cluster bombs are not against the Geneva conventions. Though any weapon can break the Geneva conventions if intentionally aimed at civilians or some other situations.
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Depending on who "you" is that, you're mostly right
The only government evil enough to actually use a nuke has been USA. And the only government evil enough to do it again is USA (or maybe their close friend isntrael) Everyone else just sees them as a deterrent
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It makes no sense to me that your title fits so perfectly, but the perfect simplicity made me laugh.
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Okay but if it hits a full apartment building, 100% of that bomb goes to killing unaware civilians.
Which is the whole reason cluster munitions are bad.
Any weapon fired at a civilian is a war crime. It doesn't matter what kind of munition was used. The problem with cluster bombs is that the shooting party, cannot control the result. Signatories of IHL have a responsibility to minimize damage to civilian people and assets. The same reason autonomous weapons are a huge ethical problem.
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It literally is exactly that once it gets repeated ad nauseum. People post this exact copypasta with a pinky out like it's some kind of intellectual hard work. It's copypasta. This is a hill I'm willing to die on.
The hill is a hole, you're already dead
