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Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez, 250 guests arriving on 90 different private jets at the wedding in Venice.

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  • T [email protected]

    I bet you none those flight will crash. So why do our flights get to crash?

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    far more people die in private plane crashes than in commercial airline crashes

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    • Z [email protected]

      That’s why they picked Italy, Italy loves fascism

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      but it's also the land of many Luigis, so there's hope

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        Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

        "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

        Translation:

        "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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        Flight Radar 24 will busy.

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        • T [email protected]

          Poor people are who should use EVs the most. They have been on the market for 15 years now, you can get dirt cheap older models. Bolt, eGolf, Zoe or Leaf can be had for under 5k. Cheaper to power, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to run. Plus more convenient and fun, subjectively.

          Also recycling is part of "reduce, reuse, recycle", which not only can help "save the planet", it will definitely and immediately save your wallet. Even if someone supposed to do the recycling, doesn't.

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          How about improving income distribution so people can buy a decent new car? It is fucking pathetic that the US income distribution is on the same level as fucking Russia.

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          • T [email protected]

            Well, a quick Google search says billions of straws are used every day.

            A straw seemingly cointans 0.42 grams of plastic.

            So by using paper straws, assuming just 1 billion straws a day, we save 420 million grams (420 tons) of plastic.

            Assuming it takes the same amount of oil to create a kg of plastic and a kg of fuel, that is 420 tons of fuel a day, just over 150k tons of fuel a year.

            An average private jet has a capacity of around 20 tons of fuel (looked up G650 on Wikipedia).

            So, the global paper straw usage offsets at least 7500 private jet flights. More if we use more than a billion straws, and more if we assume a jet doesn't fully burn 100% of the tank on every flight.

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            Thanks for the calculation. Sounds about right, according to the link below the top of the ladder billionaire flies about a couple hundred times a year and consumes about 2000 tonnes of fuel. So the fuel consumption you calculated is about 70 billionaires. It is generally true that the top hundred richest people in the world consume/obtain about as much resources as the rest of the world so that calculation is believable.

            https://carboncredits.com/the-curious-case-of-top-ceos-private-jet-emissions/

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              It would be a shame if something were to happen to so many billionaires gathered conspicuously in one place on a very publicized date

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              Skyrim something about Vici.

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              • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                I wonder how many jet flights do a single year of collective paper straw using offsets

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                according to this wiki article, over its lifetime a plastic straw will release 1,46 grams of CO2, while a paper straw will release 1,38 grams of CO2. that’s a saving of 0,08 grams.

                and according to this article, a private jet releases 4,9 kilograms of CO2 per mile.

                so: assuming you are using one straw per day, a year of using paper straws instead of plastic straws offsets about 0,006 miles of one private jet, or a bit more than 10 meters.

                that’s fun.

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                • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                  according to this wiki article, over its lifetime a plastic straw will release 1,46 grams of CO2, while a paper straw will release 1,38 grams of CO2. that’s a saving of 0,08 grams.

                  and according to this article, a private jet releases 4,9 kilograms of CO2 per mile.

                  so: assuming you are using one straw per day, a year of using paper straws instead of plastic straws offsets about 0,006 miles of one private jet, or a bit more than 10 meters.

                  that’s fun.

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                  tbh, the real reason to use paper straws instead of plastic is that they’re much more biodegradable, not so much the CO2 use. we should use way less plastic in general, imo

                  and it bears mentioning that the CO2 released by private jets still pales in comparison to what the airline industry produces; the average global northerner’s overseas holiday is still very destructive for the environment (tho obviously not as much as a rich fuck using a private jet)

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                  • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                    according to this wiki article, over its lifetime a plastic straw will release 1,46 grams of CO2, while a paper straw will release 1,38 grams of CO2. that’s a saving of 0,08 grams.

                    and according to this article, a private jet releases 4,9 kilograms of CO2 per mile.

                    so: assuming you are using one straw per day, a year of using paper straws instead of plastic straws offsets about 0,006 miles of one private jet, or a bit more than 10 meters.

                    that’s fun.

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                    Well I am glad I can buy a CEO 10 meters of flight time. My estimates is that our collective world wide yearly efforts can just about earn our top 100 richest turds their annual flight pollution.

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                    • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                      tbh, the real reason to use paper straws instead of plastic is that they’re much more biodegradable, not so much the CO2 use. we should use way less plastic in general, imo

                      and it bears mentioning that the CO2 released by private jets still pales in comparison to what the airline industry produces; the average global northerner’s overseas holiday is still very destructive for the environment (tho obviously not as much as a rich fuck using a private jet)

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                      If you compute it per person I suspect a billionaire is probably producing (just due to flights) about 10000 to 50000 more than an average traveller (couple international flights a year).

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                      • fuglyduck@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                        So, ev’s age such that the EV’s die with the batteries. Most the EVs on the used market are teslas* or absolutely at their end of life, as far as value goes-most of the cost of an ev is in those batteries.

                        While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.

                        (*which there are oh-so-many reasons to not drive, including that Tesla will still be profiting from you, even if you get it used. Because they track the shit out of you driving to train their FSD.)

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                        The EV battery dying the moment you look at it funny is a myth, if I were conspiratorial I'd say by the oil industry, but I firmly believe hanlon razor comes into play here.

                        Yes they degrade, but they are still useful.

                        LFP batteries (introduced around 2020) have an estimated lifespan of a million kilometers. The NMC ones less, around 400k, with warranties covering 200k.

                        If you are really worried despite all the data, Renault allows you to buy the car and rent the batteries. Those cars are on the market for about 3k nowadays, plus battery rent 60€ a month. Never worry about the battery, if it degrades Renault gives you a new one. They know they will make a big profit, because again, batteries don't degrade that easily.

                        Mass transit is the best solution but plenty of people still need cars, and for those people used EVs are the best economic (and ecological) option.

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                          How about improving income distribution so people can buy a decent new car? It is fucking pathetic that the US income distribution is on the same level as fucking Russia.

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                          New cars have always been a bad investment, a luxury item. You can get a year old car with 5k on the clock for a 40% discount. I'm all for improving income (and wealth) distribution, but everyone buying new cars should not be the goal.

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                            dont give me ideas...

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                            Use dots of different color nail polish to color code keys!

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                              far more people die in private plane crashes than in commercial airline crashes

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                              God willing there'll be a few more to add to those statistics soon.

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                              • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                I wonder how many jet flights do a single year of collective paper straw using offsets

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                                More importantly: what's the carbon footprint of an anti air missile?

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                                  God willing there'll be a few more to add to those statistics soon.

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                                  If you’re asking god for help, you’re never gonna get it. 😞

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                                    Article is in italian I couldn't find any news about this in english but i believe it's really important to share.

                                    "Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l'aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "

                                    Translation:

                                    "80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice's Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "

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                                    Maybe we will get lucky and some/all will fall into the canals and drown.

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                                    • D [email protected]

                                      far more people die in private plane crashes than in commercial airline crashes

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                                      One can only hope

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                                      • G [email protected]

                                        100% those are scam listings or bait and switch. You get there and they "just sold it" but here's one they just happen to have that's 3x the price, let's get you a loan for 35%apr.

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                                        A 2013 Nissan leaf is worth less than 1500 euros, because it's 12 years old, the battery has 80km range left on a good day and newer models have better range and features.

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                                          Covid was the exception, where used cars were at times more expensive than new. At any other point, including now, it's an automatic 20 to 40% loss of value as soon as you drive it the first kilometer.

                                          Someone has to buy new cars. Some has to buy rolexes. Someone has to buy business class seats and 5 star hotel rooms. If you are buying any of that while poor, that is the reason you stay poor.

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                                          At any other point, including now, it's an automatic 20 to 40% loss of value as soon as you drive it the first kilometer.

                                          This is a common misconception. The car is still worth what you paid for it. You can’t turn around and sell it for what you paid for it, because the dealership can get the same car from the manufacturer at cost. No reason for them to lose the profit they just gained selling it to you. You can’t sell it to a third party for what you paid for it because they can get it from the dealership for that price, and that will come with added benefits that a private sale won’t.

                                          It’s simple accounting though: the value of the car TO YOU is what you spent on it. That value depreciates over time, but not because you can’t immediately sell
                                          it for what you paid.

                                          Generally speaking, a new car will cost significantly less in maintenance for the first few years. Used cars, especially less expensive ones, tend to cost more to own. It is yet another example of it being expensive to be poor.

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