Bazzite: The Gaming OS Microsoft Doesn't Want You To Know About
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A long looong time ago, my gf found one called Saya no Uta. It has H-Scenes (only a few I think), but its pretty well written. I wasn't as big on it as she was, but that started my adventure down dark mystery/psychological horror VN. To this day its her favorite, though.
I can't remember everything I played and enjoyed (I wish I could but its so long ago now). I actually had to search for my favorite one because I constantly forget it. Its more dark mystery psychological with only a small amount of horror scenes, but its called DIVI-DEAD.
Again, it has H-Scenes, but thats not the sole premise. There are so many clues and endings. It has a college campus map, so being in certain places at certain times changes everything. I believe you get a time limit of like... 1 in game week to get the best ending? It goes off the rails a bit here and there, but I have fond, albeit blurry memories of it. It feels so dim and unsettling for such an old game. So good.
I've also seen that CHAOS;HEAD has good reviews, but I don't know much about it- only that I've seen the name before and I think it got an anime a long time ago. I'll keep looking and trying to remember more.
Actually just remembered one. Its called Another. It had a fairly popular anime release, but if you haven't seen it I recommend that one as well. And, of course, there's the well known Doki-Doki Literature Club.
I did some hoping, and some seriously long looks at the list. Thank you for these! I was gunna toss you some back if you don't mind. I realized none of them are JP, but they are all vis-novels.
Mediterranea Inferno Giallo, Homo, Death Game
Pumpkin Eater Kinetic, Vomit Fest, Trauma
Grotesque Beauty Ito, Dream Realm, Monster
We Know the Devil Counter-Culture, Queer, Great OSTIdk if you would like any of these, but they've all been nice games to "play." Some are less interactive than others.
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I did some hoping, and some seriously long looks at the list. Thank you for these! I was gunna toss you some back if you don't mind. I realized none of them are JP, but they are all vis-novels.
Mediterranea Inferno Giallo, Homo, Death Game
Pumpkin Eater Kinetic, Vomit Fest, Trauma
Grotesque Beauty Ito, Dream Realm, Monster
We Know the Devil Counter-Culture, Queer, Great OSTIdk if you would like any of these, but they've all been nice games to "play." Some are less interactive than others.
Got these written down in my Obsidian vault (alongside DIVI-DEAD, because I'll be damned if I forget that one again). Interaction is minor. I don't really play VN to interact with anything, but its cool if there's some sort of mechanic.
For example, Kamidori Alchemy Meister actually has fairly compelling adventure, party building, monster catching, shop building, crafting, and shop sales mechanics (much like Moonlighter shop and sales mechanic). Its a huge game with a ton of characters, but still advertises as a VN.
For me, I don't need all that as long as there's a compelling story. I know some VN out there literally don't have choices and just play as... well, as visual novels, lol. Thank you for the list. Pumpkin Eater actually stands out the most to me. It seems reminiscent of analog horror done in a VN watercolor. I like the aesthetic and it already feels unsettling.
If you want some non-VN psychological horrors, my top two are Fran Bow and Sally Face. Sally Face is incredibly good, but Fran Bow is a very VERY close second. They're more point and click puzzlers, but that's another favorite genre of mine.
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Ok. I'm not trying it. I mess with everything.
In a similar theme, I don't like the latest TrueNAS because if you want to mess with the OS, you gotta force it. Annoying as hell. I built my own nas instead.
People who say Bazzite isn't for tinkerers just misunderstand it. It's extremely tinker friendly, just not in the ways people are used to.
I'd say it's actually a lot more tinker friendly because it's super easy to revert changes.
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I moved from win10 to PikaOS, after misunderstanding why linux mint installed on a USB was unusably slow. It's fine, but some weird problems. I think Mint can get closed source Nvidia drivers easily enough. The open drivers are fine enough.
is Bazite better than Pika? is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
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I'm hijacking this thread to ask a question:
Bazzite latest MESA how?
I can see that the driver released on the 18th is available on Fedora Rawhide, but it may contain the fix I need that removes graphical artefacting in Unreal Engine 5 games like Oblivion Remastered, Avowed, and Dune Awakening (checking the MESA developer forums shows that they've identified the problem. Checking their git shows they've found a fix to the problem, hence why I'm expecting the fix to be in the version release of the 18th).
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Got these written down in my Obsidian vault (alongside DIVI-DEAD, because I'll be damned if I forget that one again). Interaction is minor. I don't really play VN to interact with anything, but its cool if there's some sort of mechanic.
For example, Kamidori Alchemy Meister actually has fairly compelling adventure, party building, monster catching, shop building, crafting, and shop sales mechanics (much like Moonlighter shop and sales mechanic). Its a huge game with a ton of characters, but still advertises as a VN.
For me, I don't need all that as long as there's a compelling story. I know some VN out there literally don't have choices and just play as... well, as visual novels, lol. Thank you for the list. Pumpkin Eater actually stands out the most to me. It seems reminiscent of analog horror done in a VN watercolor. I like the aesthetic and it already feels unsettling.
If you want some non-VN psychological horrors, my top two are Fran Bow and Sally Face. Sally Face is incredibly good, but Fran Bow is a very VERY close second. They're more point and click puzzlers, but that's another favorite genre of mine.
The funniest part is DIVI-DEAD was the one that was calling to me the most. Probably because the way you praised it. I figured I would give it a watch to see what's going on with it, and go from there (gotta track these guys down you know?) I think vis-novels are probably the easier of the bunch to get going. Holy jam, Kamidori is set @119 hour playtime? Jesus Christ, that's not a VN, that's War & Peace.
Pumpkin Eater I played once, and have thought of as the grossest VisNovel I have ever read. It's kind of like sad family splatter-punk. It is kinetic however, it's kind of like paying for a show or something. Doesn't bug me, but I do know people are like "Where's the game!?" Speaking of good games (I see you there!) I love those two very much! They capture the frantic joy of flash games to me. Which I think Jars does as well, as long as you're not against grinding in a puzzle game. It's just so cute, a little "spoopy" and has such a fun OST. Right now, I am currently playing Look Outside, which is a RPG Maker game with a lot of love put into it. My most recent play however was Sanitarium which champed it's way through the whole thing on my laptop. I played it with headphones and heard stuff I had never heard before. Was a great game, is a great game. It's Adventure based however, in fact none of these are VisNovs, just spoopy games. They're what's been on my radar as of late.
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SteamOS scares the shit out of them, though, given that they're creating a "competitor".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yeah and they unleashed some not and trolls to critic Linux gale experience, saying that Xbox give more performance and play more games.
Comparing Xbox to steamdeck but melt down and go for personnal insult pr deforming ypur words when you tell them to compare a Xbox with a linux PC with same specs than xbox -
I think it's a great OS and it's absolutely amazing how far Linux Gaming has come even in the last few years. Personally, I have to say I'm not a huge fan of Bazzite's immutability-based design. I know there are pros and cons, and they just don't balance for me. I'm a tinkerer, I like to play with the OS internals and have full control of them. Sometimes that causes problems, but it also causes learning, and I like to learn how the OS works and what it's doing "under the hood" and in my mind Linux is great for that and that's part of the appeal. For a lot of people, an immutable OS is probably the right way to go, it's much safer, and stabler, and I know most people don't care. But I do think it's worth considering that Linux is not one-size-fits-all and while Bazzite might be best for some people it's not best for everyone.
As soon as you start getting into more customization, if you find annoyances you want to fix, sometimes it's much easier when you're on a traditional, non-immutable distro, and I consider it an important bonus that this will help you learn. You do have to be more careful, and more respectful about running shell commands freely that might destroy your system, but I think that's good experience to have.
Personally I run PikaOS (debian-based) with KDE Plasma 6 and it's been an absolute pleasure. I have found some of the above mentioned annoyances, but I've fixed them to my satisfaction and I'm extremely happy with the result. I have yet to find any game that is difficult to get running, I have yet to find anything that is difficult at all really. It's been straightforward and rock solid stable. I give a lot of credit to not just the distros but also to projects like KDE, Wine, Proton, Lutris, etc. which are building this incredible gaming ecosystem on Linux. It couldn't be a better time to dump Windows, and soon we'll be at the point where no one will mourn it.
I'm a new Bazzite (nvidia) user, but I use Linux in various flavors for self-hosting already so I'm not a complete newbie.
I'm personally ok with the immutability of the os on my desktop, I'd rather be more free to break things in my homelab environment than lose an OS install on my desktop because I flew too close to the sun.
I 100% understand the appeal though.
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I prefer cachyos, also cachyos lets me use gparted and like a whole de gui for install off the usb, it was comfortable and easier than windows, bazzite was still a terminal. Felt less "scary" swapping over.
I don't remember using a text interface to install Bazzite
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I moved from win10 to PikaOS, after misunderstanding why linux mint installed on a USB was unusably slow. It's fine, but some weird problems. I think Mint can get closed source Nvidia drivers easily enough. The open drivers are fine enough.
is Bazite better than Pika? is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
unfortunately yes. driver support for any redhat derived Linux is amazing compared to Debian or Arch.
I stopped using redhat anything after IBM fucked everything up, but it's still true today.
Debian could be amazing if it weren't for the devout "it's not free, it's not for me" evangelicals. I mean, I get it, but there is a cost they just don't concern themselves with and the distro suffers because of it.
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is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
unfortunately yes. driver support for any redhat derived Linux is amazing compared to Debian or Arch.
I stopped using redhat anything after IBM fucked everything up, but it's still true today.
Debian could be amazing if it weren't for the devout "it's not free, it's not for me" evangelicals. I mean, I get it, but there is a cost they just don't concern themselves with and the distro suffers because of it.
Pika OS has easy access to open and closed nvidia drivers. Though I bailed on mint, I did notice the drivers were 1 click away.
While the base of debina/arch might be pure, the distros that build on them do so to get porno filthy. apt+flatpack seems to work ok as update/install system.
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I think it's a great OS and it's absolutely amazing how far Linux Gaming has come even in the last few years. Personally, I have to say I'm not a huge fan of Bazzite's immutability-based design. I know there are pros and cons, and they just don't balance for me. I'm a tinkerer, I like to play with the OS internals and have full control of them. Sometimes that causes problems, but it also causes learning, and I like to learn how the OS works and what it's doing "under the hood" and in my mind Linux is great for that and that's part of the appeal. For a lot of people, an immutable OS is probably the right way to go, it's much safer, and stabler, and I know most people don't care. But I do think it's worth considering that Linux is not one-size-fits-all and while Bazzite might be best for some people it's not best for everyone.
As soon as you start getting into more customization, if you find annoyances you want to fix, sometimes it's much easier when you're on a traditional, non-immutable distro, and I consider it an important bonus that this will help you learn. You do have to be more careful, and more respectful about running shell commands freely that might destroy your system, but I think that's good experience to have.
Personally I run PikaOS (debian-based) with KDE Plasma 6 and it's been an absolute pleasure. I have found some of the above mentioned annoyances, but I've fixed them to my satisfaction and I'm extremely happy with the result. I have yet to find any game that is difficult to get running, I have yet to find anything that is difficult at all really. It's been straightforward and rock solid stable. I give a lot of credit to not just the distros but also to projects like KDE, Wine, Proton, Lutris, etc. which are building this incredible gaming ecosystem on Linux. It couldn't be a better time to dump Windows, and soon we'll be at the point where no one will mourn it.
Garuda had the same gaming focus as Bazzite without the immutability.
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This UGLY son of a bitch is playing SUPER FUN games and basically, YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID
How? ...Just install this Linux distro >
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Pika OS has easy access to open and closed nvidia drivers. Though I bailed on mint, I did notice the drivers were 1 click away.
While the base of debina/arch might be pure, the distros that build on them do so to get porno filthy. apt+flatpack seems to work ok as update/install system.
I absolutely love that you describe PikaOS as porno filthy. No judgement, no defense, no argument, I just think it's a hilarious description while perfectly making your point, and is pretty much the best thing I've read today. Thank you!
And just to stay on-topic, yeah I've found flatpak invaluable in working around some of debian's unfortunate packaging limitations. I try to use the debian packages first if possible, but if the version is too old, not available, or has crappy dependency conflicts, flatpak to the rescue!
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I don't remember using a text interface to install Bazzite
this was a few months ago and it launched in a terminal with the options
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I don't remember using a text interface to install Bazzite
Mightve been one of the other de options for bazzite
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Just a heads up, if you play a lot of Japanese games. I have had incredible trouble playing pretty much any Japanese game that isn't potato-esq since switching to Linux. I figured I'd get that out there. I gave up on playing them, which stinks because there are some very interesting games out there to play. If I can emulate, I do. But anything from Steam would just crash, within 10-20 minutes of playing them.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I need to check what its called on my computer but lutris didnt work for me for some pirated games, some other launcher off github I found off a comment on reddit did, might work for that
might be portwine https://github.com/Castro-Fidel/PortWINE pretty sure
wasnt portwine was fauguslauncher
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is fedora base better than Debian/Arch base?
unfortunately yes. driver support for any redhat derived Linux is amazing compared to Debian or Arch.
I stopped using redhat anything after IBM fucked everything up, but it's still true today.
Debian could be amazing if it weren't for the devout "it's not free, it's not for me" evangelicals. I mean, I get it, but there is a cost they just don't concern themselves with and the distro suffers because of it.
I would argue that that particular insistence of theirs is precisely why they're still relevant today and seemingly immune to the enshittification and churn that plagues the rest of the ecosystem
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I would argue that that particular insistence of theirs is precisely why they're still relevant today and seemingly immune to the enshittification and churn that plagues the rest of the ecosystem
I don't disagree, but at the same time it's a choice the community has taken that completely walls off a large population of potential users.
as someone else said though, there are other distros based on Debian that attempt to rectify that.
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SteamOS scares the shit out of them, though, given that they're creating a "competitor".
wrote on last edited by [email protected]SteamOS does not scare the shit out of them at all. Microsoft's money is in dominating the business world. They like being in the video game world but it's only a portion of their portfolio whereas Valve is all in. Plus SteamOS didn't hurt them last time, why would they believe it will this time? Maybe it will, but unfortunately smart money is not betting against microsoft on this. Valve will continue to nibble at the edges and expand linux gaming, which is awesome, but look what it's taken to get to just under 5% of the gaming market (that's ALL of linux btw, not SteamOS).
Until Valve offers commercial offerings (never) I think M$ isn't losing sleep. They aren't even on the same plane in terms of scale and resources. They're competing for handheld pc gaming, but it's not high stakes for microsoft at all.
