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  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

    The lighting of the room is clearly yellow. The black stripes look to be a very glossy material, which when lit with yellow light reflects goldish. There's no way that lighting turns a white dress blue.

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    What room? It looks like we're looking at the back of an object that's facing out into bright sunlight.

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      It's because we're also very used to seeing photographs of a subject in shade while the background is in full sunlight. If you take a picture of a white and gold dress in the shadow of a patio, with the background all fully lit by bright sunlight, the actual pixels representing white objects in the shade would be that bluish gray tint.

      The problem here is that the dress isn't in the shade but those of us who see white and gold simply assume that it is in shade, while black/blue viewers (correctly) assume that it is under the same lighting conditions of the overexposed background.

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      This thread has been helpful for understanding how others could see it as white and gold; I never realized people were actually seeing it as in shadow even given the context of the rest of the picture.

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      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

        IIRC, it's white and gold, but the lighting is way oversaturated or otherwise fucked up, making it look blue and black.

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        I thought it was the otherway around. I see White and Gold and I'm pretty sure I was wrong at the time

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        • zagorath@aussie.zoneZ [email protected]

          What room? It looks like we're looking at the back of an object that's facing out into bright sunlight.

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          Whatever the setting is, it appears to be bathed in bright sunlight. That's the important part.

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            it was obviously blue and yellow.

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            Yeah, it's like blue and an ugly desaturated goldenrod. Because it's sort of yellowish instead of black I think that's why it tricks people's brains.

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            • L [email protected]

              Even with my phone cranked all the way up it still looks blue to me. I've never been able to see the white and gold version people claim exists.

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              Maybe my comment can help

              https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/comment/17803266

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                I found this image to be a really good way to distill the issue down into the two different modes or perception:

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress#/media/File:Wikipe-tan_wearing_The_Dress_reduced.svg

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                To me the background looks more like the left.

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                  It's funny how people will keep barking about it even when you slap them in the face with color picker which is mathematical display of the color. There is no "how brain is seeing things". It's literally WHAT THE COLOR IS. To call white with faint blue tint "blue" and what is clearly a "gold" shade can't possibly be black. If photo was heavily manipulated through photo editing or lighting, that doesn't prove anything at all. Or the question was stupid. No one was really asking "what color is the dress", they were asking what colors are on the photo. And photo has no relation to the real dress because of light conditions manipulation or even photo editing.

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                  No one was really asking "what color is the dress", they were asking what colors are on the photo.

                  This is not my recollection of this at all. Everyone knows what physical colors are on the screen. If so people who see the image as white and gold wouldn't have been shocked/angry to learn the dress is actually blue and black.

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                    I thought it was the otherway around. I see White and Gold and I'm pretty sure I was wrong at the time

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                    I really just remember it had something to do with the lighting. I see it as a very light blue with black stripes that have hints of gold in them. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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                      I can never see black and blue. I assume all those who claim to see black and blue are bots. fite me

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                        It’s white and gold until you do the ice-bucket challenge, then it’s blue and black.

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                        • nelots@lemmy.zipN [email protected]

                          That would be because the outlines themselves are not the same colors, just the blue/white and black/yellow sections. Here's an image I quickly edited with the outlines and skin removed, so you can see just how much an effect they have on the image. Both dresses still look normal, but they no longer look like completely different colors when compared together this way.

                          (edit): And here's the same image with the outer boxes removed, to show how much the lighting is affecting things, where one of the dresses just looks completely wrong to me now.

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                          I feel so dumb, you did such good work on this and… OK maybe I’ll just take another look in the morning and it’ll make sense

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                            clearly some problems need to be taken from behind

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                            Solve me Daddy

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                              I swear it was blue and black this morning, but now it's white and gold!

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                              Same here, I know it's the same post since I up voted it.

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                                It’s black and gold. Duh….

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                                  So you're saying if there were a blue and black snake that bites with deadly venom, and a white and gold snake that's harmless to people, you'd gain an evolutionary advantage from seeing the blue and black snake turn white and gold in the sun?

                                  No, being able to see the same snake as the same colour by adjusting for ambient lighting conditions aids survival.

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                                  That isn’t what’s happening it’s a low res overexposed photo that lacks visual cues not real life.

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                                    And no white.
                                    The only issue with the photo is that the black isn't captured as absolute black and it's a brown color.

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                                    Brown with a gold tint yes.

                                    And blue so light it could be mistaken for white.

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                                    • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                      No one was really asking "what color is the dress", they were asking what colors are on the photo.

                                      This is not my recollection of this at all. Everyone knows what physical colors are on the screen. If so people who see the image as white and gold wouldn't have been shocked/angry to learn the dress is actually blue and black.

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                                      If they were asking about actual color of the dress that you cannot see, what the fuck is the point? That's like saying, we put orange cat in fully closed box. What color is the cat? And you then claim it's not orange, it's black because there is no light inside the fully closed box so the cat is actually black. That's the level of stupid argument with this stupid ass dress.

                                      I can also shoot a white dress to look entirely blue because I'm gonna use cool white light at 9000 fucking Kelvins and fuck up the cameras white balance to make shit look anything but its actual color. I can also take a normal photo and then just drag some sliders in photo editor and fuck up colors and then ask some bullshit question about colors and then go like "well, achtually it's not that color".

                                      It's also funny when people argue it's not actually white because color picker says it's light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature. Secondly, open color wheel and see where it's positioned. It's in the white segment mildly nudging towards blue. The part where I'm not gonna argue is perception of gradients. This isn't "this gold color is actually black bullshit", but actual science where people perceive correct colors differently. For someone a certain gradient of red is perceived as lighter or darker compared to someone else. But certainly isn't perceived as green. Or black. Or whatever other basic color.

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                                        Look at the background. The lighting is a warm yellow. This shifts blue to white and black to gold.

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                                        That's the thing, that background can also look like a harsh sunlight, which would typically give you a blue tint. Your brain has to guess which is right.

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                                        • icastfist@programming.devI [email protected]

                                          The blue of the dress is pretty obvious, the black details are a different, golden hue due to ambient light. I "know" it's black, but it looks dark gold

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                                          The blue of the dress is pretty obvious

                                          It really isn't to me. Even knowing the true colour I still cannot see the blue in this picture, it's perfectly white for me. Guess my brain is wired wrong. ☹️

                                          Edit: happy cake day!

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