Who remembers this?
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This person doesn't understand pixels lol. You picked one pixel. Pick 100 of them and average them. It's in the white spectrum with a slight shade of blue hue. If you look at it on the color wheel, it's well within white segment slightly towards the blue. When you zoom out of single pixels, it's white that you get under cool white light. It's still considered white.
As for gold, computer screens do not display gold in specular way how you see it with eyes.When you pick pixels, they will be in range of brown. Again, you don't seem to underetand pixels. And ultimately, this is suppose to be black, remember? Where's the black?
The "after" photos of a dress show dark blue with black lace details because it was not captured in bullshit lighting. Where is that on the picked pixels? Just like years ago we are once again arguing over bullshit doctored/manipulated/bad photo of a dress arguing what color it is. It's beyond stupid and I can't believe people are still this dumb to argue about colors that aren't even there. I don't care how dress actually looks, you showed me the photo of it and you're asking me how the dress looks like on the photo, not in reality. The rest is within the color picker which is mathematical representation of colors that doesn't give a shit how eyes work. And it picks very faint blue and brown (thats perceived by eyes as white and gold). Not dark blue and black.
You are absolutely right. How most people don't seem to get this fact is beyond me.
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Look at the background. The lighting is a warm yellow. This shifts blue to white and black to gold.
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Show me the white here. I thought gold was like a yellow orange, not a brown-grey color
Thats the blue-white. Or light blue.
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Not this shit again!
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I'm the exact opposite. When somebody first showed me the picture, I thought "is this some kind of trick question? It's obviously black and blue". And still to this day, after many arguments with (friends and family) as what I can only perceive as stubborn defensiveness, I can still only ever perceive it as black and blue.
I literally cannot override my color perception to trick myself into seeing white and gold and it feels like a mistake a lot of people made (to see white and gold) and then just stuck with and argued for ("it's an optical illusion!" or "look at the pixels!").
Even if you zoom in really far? Thats what I cant wrap my head around. The colour is so far from black I cant see how anyone would interpret it as black.
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The point has never been about the actual pixel color codes. It's about how human perception doesn't follow those objective metrics.
Distilled down, we perceive color and brightness in comparison to the surrounding scene. The checker shadow illusion is a clear example of the same color looking different.
So the color perception on the dress depends on how the brain decides to color correct the white balance of the scene.
For the millionth time, the camera perceived it that way, not a human eye.
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Oh yeah, the gold and white dress. I remember some people were acting crazy saying it is blue and white.
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Even if you zoom in really far? Thats what I cant wrap my head around. The colour is so far from black I cant see how anyone would interpret it as black.
Definitely. Part of how it works for me, is I see the lighting around the space, and how white/bright looks, and how it's VERY different from the dress.
So then my brain picks up on how light in the image works, and then makes a profile that the camera is shitty in a shitty environment, and how to interpret color and context.
Only after that does my brain decipher what's in the picture, being The Dress
I would argue that if somebody de-blurred the picture, and cut out the dress apart from the background, and just had the dress........
Hmmm... Nah, because... even then, I can see how the seams are basically black or far darker blue (like in the shading), and not actual white or gold.
Yeah I just don't get how white and gold is seen.
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everyone's wrong, gold and baby blue
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Oh yeah, the gold and white dress. I remember some people were acting crazy saying it is blue and white.
jokes aside the actual dress was blue and black
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
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What on earth are you talking about.
Only the 'darker' picture looks remotely blue and black
Just curious. If you look at the dress at the bottom, and let your peripherals see the dresses up top slowly, then look up to the dresses on top, do you see them in blue/black then? Happened for me, then even when I scrolled up to the other pictures they stayed blue/black for a while.
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Just curious. If you look at the dress at the bottom, and let your peripherals see the dresses up top slowly, then look up to the dresses on top, do you see them in blue/black then? Happened for me, then even when I scrolled up to the other pictures they stayed blue/black for a while.
Does not help me to see it the other way.
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Ok is this post some sort of trick? I opened up lemmy, saw it white and gold for the first time in my life, then I took a shower, now it is blue and black once more.
wrote last edited by [email protected]For some reason, in the thumbnail, it's much easier to convince my brain that it's a white and gold dress in shadow. When I expand the image, it's pretty much impossible for me to see it as anything other than blue & black.
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
I've been trying for the past minute and cannot see anything other than white and gold
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
Right? Everyone has had eyes I guess.
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The front of it presumably is. But the back, that we're looking at, seems to be in shade.
Light bounces around. That's the whole point of ray tracing. Even if the dress were not in direct light, the light bouncing around the environment would prevent the kind of shade necessary for that.
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So people looking at this photograph actually can perceive this to be white and gold? thats utterly wild. And hard to believe.
You want wild? I see it white and gold in the PC, and blue and black(ish) on the phone.
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If they were asking about actual color of the dress that you cannot see, what the fuck is the point? That's like saying, we put orange cat in fully closed box. What color is the cat? And you then claim it's not orange, it's black because there is no light inside the fully closed box so the cat is actually black. That's the level of stupid argument with this stupid ass dress.
I can also shoot a white dress to look entirely blue because I'm gonna use cool white light at 9000 fucking Kelvins and fuck up the cameras white balance to make shit look anything but its actual color. I can also take a normal photo and then just drag some sliders in photo editor and fuck up colors and then ask some bullshit question about colors and then go like "well, achtually it's not that color".
It's also funny when people argue it's not actually white because color picker says it's light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature. Secondly, open color wheel and see where it's positioned. It's in the white segment mildly nudging towards blue. The part where I'm not gonna argue is perception of gradients. This isn't "this gold color is actually black bullshit", but actual science where people perceive correct colors differently. For someone a certain gradient of red is perceived as lighter or darker compared to someone else. But certainly isn't perceived as green. Or black. Or whatever other basic color.
It's also funny when people argue it's not actually white because color picker says it's light blue. Firstly, color motherfucking temperature.
It's because it seems like about half of people's eyes and brains correct it one way and the other half the other way, leading to extremely heated discussions about "how can you not see it my way." This isn't like other optical illusions like that silhouette of a spinning ballerina where you can easily flip it around in your mind. I've only ever seen this as white and gold once and it took someone putting it upside down and very slowly zooming out from a very specific area of the dress.
So that's why people were so torn about it.
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I found this image to be a really good way to distill the issue down into the two different modes or perception:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress#/media/File:Wikipe-tan_wearing_The_Dress_reduced.svg
wrote last edited by [email protected]I initially saw black and blue, but after scrolling to the top of this thread yesterday I could only see white and gold and again today, even zooming in.
Immediately switched to black and blue after reading that.
The mind is a fascinating thing.
Edit: Holy crap I'm back to white and gold.
