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Iran's Parliament Votes to Close Strait of Hormuz After US Attacks

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  • F [email protected]

    As much as I hate how this is going to affect millions in the US and Iran, and elsewhere, who are already struggling, I don't think anyone in the US will care unless it personally affects their own quality of life, so yeah, part of me agrees with you.

    If the gas price skyrockets they will demand Donald's head. Nothing pisses Americans off more than not being able to use their cars.

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    If the gas price skyrockets they will demand Donald’s head

    Maybe. Or maybe they'll just keep blaming Palestine protesters and other Woke Leftists for doing a domestic terrorism by talking shit about the president.

    It took a long long while for the median Americans to come around to Bush being a POS. Conservatives only really turned on him after he left office.

    I can easily see our domestic media egging on our paramilitary DHS to do more fascism against the immigrants responsible for inflation. And I can easily imagine a lot of Americans convinced they're who are to blame.

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      I mean yeah but he's already a dictator. We can't vote our way out of this.

      All these liberals just don't fuckin get it yet....

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      #20

      I'm torn, because I've seen plenty to suggest the democratic process is still chugging along in the states. Let me know when the NJ/VA gubernatorial races are overturned.

      At the same time, I've seen "Welcomefest" and the liberal doubling down on Palestinian genocide. I'm seeing liberals in Congress line up to support Trump in his Iran War. Liberals are bought into crypto. They're bought in on school privatization. They're bought in on defunding Medicaid and SS. They bought in on the deportations and the lawless arrests and the police violence

      Too many liberals are supporting Trump in deed, while complaining in name only. How does an election fix that?

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      • F [email protected]

        You just lived through a period where people literally threatened their neighbors (and tried to kidnap a governor) with guns because they couldn't get a haircut or get some cheesy biscuits at Red Lobster.

        The worst sin Donald can commit is coming between Americans and the convenience that they equate with liberty.

        And yes, there will be another vote.

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        And yes, there will be another vote.

        6-3 SCOTUS says the election didn't mean what you thought it meant.

        Bush v Gore was a lethal blow for American democracy.

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        • ohstopyellingatme@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

          This will just give trump more leverage to drill on protected lands and build pipelines through communities, and seize private property in the US, to satisfy his American oil baron owners.

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          This is exactly right and needs to be higher. This was either part of the plan or a welcome side effect.

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          • F [email protected]

            Following U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday, the Iranian Parliament has voted in support of closing the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most critical oil transit chokepoints, according to media reports.

            Any final decision on retaliation, however, will rest with the country's Supreme National Security Council and le

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            Around 20 percent of global oil trade passes through the Strait. Some experts have said that if Iran were to cut off access to the Strait, it could spike oil prices by 30 to 50 percent immediately, with gas prices likewise rising by as much as $5 per gallon.

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            • A [email protected]

              From what I understand, the US is now an oil producing country due to fracking so we won’t see results like the oil embargo of the 70s, just increases in prices. Increasing the price of oil will increase the profits to Republican donors. I do wonder what the products of the closure will look like.

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              Increasing the price of oil will increase the profits to Republican donors.

              It also increases Russian profits. 🤔

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              • F [email protected]

                Following U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday, the Iranian Parliament has voted in support of closing the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most critical oil transit chokepoints, according to media reports.

                Any final decision on retaliation, however, will rest with the country's Supreme National Security Council and le

                _

                Around 20 percent of global oil trade passes through the Strait. Some experts have said that if Iran were to cut off access to the Strait, it could spike oil prices by 30 to 50 percent immediately, with gas prices likewise rising by as much as $5 per gallon.

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                Wow, never saw that coming. Not.

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                • E [email protected]

                  This is Jack's total lack of surprise.

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                  I was surprised by this comment...

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                  • F [email protected]

                    Following U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday, the Iranian Parliament has voted in support of closing the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most critical oil transit chokepoints, according to media reports.

                    Any final decision on retaliation, however, will rest with the country's Supreme National Security Council and le

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                    Around 20 percent of global oil trade passes through the Strait. Some experts have said that if Iran were to cut off access to the Strait, it could spike oil prices by 30 to 50 percent immediately, with gas prices likewise rising by as much as $5 per gallon.

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                    The Orange Turd is the dumbest guy in the room.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      So, for those watching, as usual, the cost of the war can and will fall most heavily on the poor.

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                      The poor should rethink their vote next time

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                      • L [email protected]

                        The poor should rethink their vote next time

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                        You're right.

                        They should all vote Green.

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                        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                          I'm torn, because I've seen plenty to suggest the democratic process is still chugging along in the states. Let me know when the NJ/VA gubernatorial races are overturned.

                          At the same time, I've seen "Welcomefest" and the liberal doubling down on Palestinian genocide. I'm seeing liberals in Congress line up to support Trump in his Iran War. Liberals are bought into crypto. They're bought in on school privatization. They're bought in on defunding Medicaid and SS. They bought in on the deportations and the lawless arrests and the police violence

                          Too many liberals are supporting Trump in deed, while complaining in name only. How does an election fix that?

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                          What you're saying is there is actually a class divide that gets hidden by a manufactured social divide.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            You just lived through a period where people literally threatened their neighbors (and tried to kidnap a governor) with guns because they couldn't get a haircut or get some cheesy biscuits at Red Lobster.

                            The worst sin Donald can commit is coming between Americans and the convenience that they equate with liberty.

                            And yes, there will be another vote.

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                            #31

                            The vote may take place, but its not gonna matter. If he wants to stay in office, he will.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              As much as I hate how this is going to affect millions in the US and Iran, and elsewhere, who are already struggling, I don't think anyone in the US will care unless it personally affects their own quality of life, so yeah, part of me agrees with you.

                              If the gas price skyrockets they will demand Donald's head. Nothing pisses Americans off more than not being able to use their cars.

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                              #32

                              If the gas price skyrockets

                              We're a net oil exporter these days, thanks to hydrofracking.

                              https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php

                              In 2020, the United States became a net exporter of petroleum for the first time since at least 1949.

                              If the gas price skyrockets, (a) if it becomes really serious, it's possible for the US to not export oil and (b) more US oil production will come online.

                              Loss of oil access was a potent lever against the US in the 1970s, but it isn't in 2025.

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                              • ohstopyellingatme@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                                This will just give trump more leverage to drill on protected lands and build pipelines through communities, and seize private property in the US, to satisfy his American oil baron owners.

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                                Unfortunately the oil we drill can't be refined here. So it doesn't matter if we drill more. We can't do anything with it without sending it east.

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  The US Navy can try their very best to keep that strait open, but they simply cannot stop 100% of commercial vessels from being attacked when there are hostile groups on both sides of the strait with significant missile capabilities. US naval vessels themselves will become targets, and there would likely be some costly US losses. Regardless, the increased risk of traversing the strait will have an immediate impact on oil prices, even if no ships are actually blocked

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                                  US naval vessels themselves will become targets

                                  They already have been the target of missiles launched by the Houthis provided by Iran. Thus far, missile defenses have stopped them.

                                  I suppose that Iran probably has some ability to ramp up how many anti-ship missiles they're throwing, but the US also has the ability to drastically ramp up the number of bombs being dropped on Iran; I doubt that climbing the escalation ladder is going to be advantageous to Iran.

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    As much as I hate how this is going to affect millions in the US and Iran, and elsewhere, who are already struggling, I don't think anyone in the US will care unless it personally affects their own quality of life, so yeah, part of me agrees with you.

                                    If the gas price skyrockets they will demand Donald's head. Nothing pisses Americans off more than not being able to use their cars.

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                                    You sure about that? This is MAGA. They will fall in line and say "if Biden didn't fuck this up in the first place.. then...blah blah"

                                    They are all Team players. They will bend the knee like before.

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                                    • L [email protected]

                                      The poor should rethink their vote next time

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                                      next time

                                      Here's hoping there will even be a next time.

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                                      • B [email protected]

                                        What you're saying is there is actually a class divide that gets hidden by a manufactured social divide.

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                                        could it be that Marx was right, then?

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                                        • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                          next time

                                          Here's hoping there will even be a next time.

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                                          If the option to vote with paper is gone try lead.

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