Pakistan slams Trump over Iran after backing him for Nobel Peace Prize
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What's interesting to know is that they submitted him for a Nobel Peace Prize after he helped negotiate a deal between India and Pakistan. It was probably something he pushed for because that's not normally what countries do after somebody helps them to broker a deal.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He probably is not aware of it, but with that move he ruined years of US trying to align itself with India.
India does not see itself as a peer next to Pakistan. Suggesting that US (or anybody) would meditate peace talks with Pakistan was extremely insulting to India.
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He probably is not aware of it, but with that move he ruined years of US trying to align itself with India.
India does not see itself as a peer next to Pakistan. Suggesting that US (or anybody) would meditate peace talks with Pakistan was extremely insulting to India.
Given the incredibly right wing bent of the current Indian government I'm okay if our relations aren't exactly Frosty.
Trump blowing up us relations with countries is just another day
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Wasn't his involvement pretty minimal anyway?
Or is that spin from India? Somewhere in between?
I mean Pakistan felt compelled to at least put his name in for the Nobel Peace Prize. That means he probably did something but who knows how much she was actually involved for whether or not this is all just a political stunt.
I also remember reading somewhere that India was the one that called Trump to negotiate a ceasefire after Pakistan responded. I can't tell what's misinformation this day without spending a ton of time researching the history of the topic
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https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1973/kissinger/facts/
I'm just speechless...
There's a hole the size of Cambodia in that write-up.
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Obama? Try Kissinger.
Tom Lehrer declared satire to be dead and stopped writing songs after Kissinger was awarded the Nobel peace prize
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I mean Pakistan felt compelled to at least put his name in for the Nobel Peace Prize. That means he probably did something but who knows how much she was actually involved for whether or not this is all just a political stunt.
I also remember reading somewhere that India was the one that called Trump to negotiate a ceasefire after Pakistan responded. I can't tell what's misinformation this day without spending a ton of time researching the history of the topic
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Paraphrased by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_India–Pakistan_conflict#Analysis
[The Times] reported that India felt frustrated after Donald Trump public claims of mediating a cease-fire, presenting both countries as equals and downplaying the terrorist attack that triggered the conflict, and that India had hoped any U.S. involvement would remain discreet, and Trump's portrayal of both countries on equal terms was seen by Indian officials as politically sensitive and diplomatically frustrating...
On 21 June, Pakistan announced it would nominate Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, citing his role in brokering the ceasefire. Pakistan credited Trump's diplomatic intervention, though India denied any U.S. mediation.
Like it said, seems like India assumed the modest level of mediation would be confidential (clear miscalculus on their part), while Pakistan, err, trumped up the magnitude of the intervention to paint themselves in a better light, possibly because they're at a military disadvantage, and felt grateful for the help.
Seems like there was some backchannel involvement from many countries (like "Saudi Arabia, Iran, the UAE and the UK" and indeed the US), but Trump couldn't help himself and loudly claimed credit before the ceasefire was even announced.
Now India's annoyed (hence their flat denial).
I like this explanation, it 'fits' all the involved characters, including Trump blotting out the sun and killing any nuance to the situation.
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Imagine Trump actually getting the Nobel Peace Prize. And it may unironically happen.
Imagine the Pakistanis' shock that such a shining scion of human greatness and integrity would run counter of the foundational principles for which the Nobel Peace Prize is supposed to stand. /s
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Paraphrased by Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_India–Pakistan_conflict#Analysis
[The Times] reported that India felt frustrated after Donald Trump public claims of mediating a cease-fire, presenting both countries as equals and downplaying the terrorist attack that triggered the conflict, and that India had hoped any U.S. involvement would remain discreet, and Trump's portrayal of both countries on equal terms was seen by Indian officials as politically sensitive and diplomatically frustrating...
On 21 June, Pakistan announced it would nominate Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, citing his role in brokering the ceasefire. Pakistan credited Trump's diplomatic intervention, though India denied any U.S. mediation.
Like it said, seems like India assumed the modest level of mediation would be confidential (clear miscalculus on their part), while Pakistan, err, trumped up the magnitude of the intervention to paint themselves in a better light, possibly because they're at a military disadvantage, and felt grateful for the help.
Seems like there was some backchannel involvement from many countries (like "Saudi Arabia, Iran, the UAE and the UK" and indeed the US), but Trump couldn't help himself and loudly claimed credit before the ceasefire was even announced.
Now India's annoyed (hence their flat denial).
I like this explanation, it 'fits' all the involved characters, including Trump blotting out the sun and killing any nuance to the situation.
It seems like a really excellent response that's well informed and source well.
It does seem like the most plausible explanation
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Well, Pakistan isn’t exactly a leader in world peace either…
Which Country Is The Greatest Threat to World Peace?
The US was the overwhelming choice (24% of respondents) for the country that represents the greatest threat to peace in the world today. This was followed by Pakistan (8%), China (6%), North Korea, Israel and Iran (5%). Respondents in Russia (54%), China (49%) and Bosnia (49%) were the most fearful of the US as a threat.
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lmao these fucking clowns
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Well, Pakistan isn’t exactly a leader in world peace either…
Which Country Is The Greatest Threat to World Peace?
The US was the overwhelming choice (24% of respondents) for the country that represents the greatest threat to peace in the world today. This was followed by Pakistan (8%), China (6%), North Korea, Israel and Iran (5%). Respondents in Russia (54%), China (49%) and Bosnia (49%) were the most fearful of the US as a threat.
pre-2013
