Sunday question: What do you say about Berlin abolishing the 30 km/h speed limit because the air has improved thanks to the 30 km/h speed limit?
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This is like when a person goes on a diet, loses weight, then stops the diet.
More like stopping an antibiotic course mid-way.
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That's true. I got to the op article through this one: https://www.der-postillon.com/2025/06/sonntagsfrage-tempo-30-berlin.html
Would this be a good fit? (I don't speak German)
I think so, if the headline is preserved while machine-translated.
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EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read
). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I canThe absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
I'm having déjà vu.
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I think so, if the headline is preserved while machine-translated.
Done.
Reminder for myself: read rules of community before posting, next time
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This really hurts my brain. How can politicians be this shortsighted?
I'm living here and you are absolutely correct. Public transit is good. Most streets are 50 km/h. Some are 30 but that is oftentimes not enforced.
Several studies have shown that a speed limit of 30 km/h can massively reduce the number and severity of accidents. But as Germans we hate the idea of slowing down for other road users. We bought those shiny non electric cars and we want to blast through the city, god damnit!
Oh they just got friends and potential future employers in the automotive industry.
I politics hanlons razor is reversed. Never attribute to stupidity that which could be explained by corruption.
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This is like when a person goes on a diet, loses weight, then stops the diet.
You're supposed to stop the diet when you reached your target weight. So not like that at all.
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EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read
). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I canThe absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
I'm curious, do they fire all sysadmins on days where everything goes smoothly and rehire new ones the day after?
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This is like when a person goes on a diet, loses weight, then stops the diet.
Okay, so you're overweight.
To lose weight, you must consume fewer calories than you burn. You do this for awhile. Your weight decreases.
Your weight has decreased to your target weight.
If you continue to consume fewer calories than you burn, you will continue to lose weight, becoming underweight.
To maintain your target weight, you must consume as many calories that you burn.
Your weight loss diet will be more restrictive than a weight maintenance diet.
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EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read
). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I canThe absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
I was in Berlin some years ago (2018?) and traffic is what will make me never ever put my foot there again.
Eating on the terrace of a cozy restaurant in the middle of the city? A fucking mega truck hauling 40 tons of wood thundering by at 70km/h raising so much dust from the street you get it in your food. Mmmm
️.It's everywhere even in their mega park you hear traffic traffic traffic, I know Germans love their cars and so, but man, keep it away from the city centre?
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You're supposed to stop the diet when you reached your target weight. So not like that at all.
Only if you want to get even fatter.
Find a diet that works for life, not a "lose 5 kilos in 3 weeks" fad diet if you want to have a healthy weight.
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EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read
). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I canThe absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I live here and recently had to borrow a car for a vacation. Of course I had to drive it through the city as well and it always surprised me how car-friendly it is. You are on a highway or road (or stroad) pretty quickly most of the time, so there's not much need to actually drive through most streets. Also -at least in my area- parking was sooo easy to find! I don't understand why peaople park so horrible here; I was able to find a free & legal spot within a 10 minute walk every time...
The only thing that really is in your way are other cars during rush-hour. Which makes the increased speed limit even more ridiculus; outside of rushour you're not losing much time because of it and within you're not gaining anything because it's just stop and go anyways.
I have to say that my experience cycling has improved since I moved here though. Maybe it's because I moved closer to the center at some point, maybe it's because I got used to it or it's because of the protected biking infrastructure the previous government & the districts were able to build. I just hope we get a rrg coaliton again next time around so things are going to continue improving.
Public transit is awsome if you don't live too far out. For some areas I can understand why people might find it frustrating to rely on it.
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That's true. I got to the op article through this one: https://www.der-postillon.com/2025/06/sonntagsfrage-tempo-30-berlin.html
Would this be a good fit? (I don't speak German)
That would not be a good fit as the Postilion is the German pendant to the Onion.
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Only if you want to get even fatter.
Find a diet that works for life, not a "lose 5 kilos in 3 weeks" fad diet if you want to have a healthy weight.
If you're on a diet that will make you lose weight you can't stay on that diet when you want to keep your weight. Doesn't mean you have to go back to the diet that made you fat. This really is just very basic common sense.
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Okay, so you're overweight.
To lose weight, you must consume fewer calories than you burn. You do this for awhile. Your weight decreases.
Your weight has decreased to your target weight.
If you continue to consume fewer calories than you burn, you will continue to lose weight, becoming underweight.
To maintain your target weight, you must consume as many calories that you burn.
Your weight loss diet will be more restrictive than a weight maintenance diet.
I AM TOO A HUMAN BEING. JUST CHANGE THE EATING CYCLE PARAMETERS UNTIL TARGET WEIGHT ACQUIRED.
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I'm curious, do they fire all sysadmins on days where everything goes smoothly and rehire new ones the day after?
Don't give them ideas.
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I was in Berlin some years ago (2018?) and traffic is what will make me never ever put my foot there again.
Eating on the terrace of a cozy restaurant in the middle of the city? A fucking mega truck hauling 40 tons of wood thundering by at 70km/h raising so much dust from the street you get it in your food. Mmmm
️.It's everywhere even in their mega park you hear traffic traffic traffic, I know Germans love their cars and so, but man, keep it away from the city centre?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]May I ask what area you were in? Because there are many restaurants that are not near streets a lorry would usually take (esp. at those speeds).
And I don't really hear (or see) the traffic in most parks I vistit.
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EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read
). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I canThe absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
Is this really 30? That seems very slow. 20 would help even more but there are other disadvantages to consider other than just the pollution
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May I ask what area you were in? Because there are many restaurants that are not near streets a lorry would usually take (esp. at those speeds).
And I don't really hear (or see) the traffic in most parks I vistit.
I don't remember perfectly, but between berlin mittel (got that from google maps, city-centre just north of the Sprée) and a bit to the north I think, still inside the city centre.
Tiergarten has a fucking motorway cutting it in half BTW
Come to Paris for a change, there it's the people who will annoy you, not the cars
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If you're on a diet that will make you lose weight you can't stay on that diet when you want to keep your weight. Doesn't mean you have to go back to the diet that made you fat. This really is just very basic common sense.
Well get a diet that makes you stay on your target weight. Those fad diets will just not work, as you just regain the weight when you stop.
Diet also doesn't mean weight-losing. You can have a cheese-less diet (god forbid) for example.
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EDIT: changed article link and title to comply with rules (that I didn't read
). The article that is linked now, links to the previous one (this one https://www.rbb24.de/politik/beitrag/2025/06/senatsverwaltung-verkehr-berlin-tempo-30.htm), and the title is the google translated of the new article, as close as original German as I canThe absurdity of the proposal is already in the title, and shows how motonormativity is spread all over the world.
Berlin has a very good public transit system, and a few 30 km/h zones cannot be that bad.
I would love to hear opinions from someone who lives there!
crossposted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/114732266280428499
Hey and in Freiburg they just cancelled the LEZ because the air quality improved...
