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145 people at France music festival report being pricked with syringes after online calls to target women

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  • P [email protected]

    Tangentially, I was chatting with the owner of my local pub in Boston recently, and apparently it’s become something of a game (?!?!?!?!?) to try to slip people mickeys around here.

    In some time periods in some places in the world, getting a hand cut off was punishment for theft. While that is a bit extreme, maybe assholes convicted of this should lose the final knuckle of their pinky finger as punishment for drugging people at bars.

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    It should be something easy to see. Part of the advantage of cutting off someone's hand isn't just the punishment, it's a marker that a person is a thief that they can't get rid of. Ideally it'd be something obvious and easy to see, that's also uncommon enough naturally that you know what happened.

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    • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

      This is a panic that has come and gone multiple times even just during my lifetime. I remember the first time I heard about it was visitors to neighboring Tijuana with HIV infected blood on the 80s.
      Never once has it actually been confirmed to have happened.

      These are 145 self reports. Nothing confirmed. No video evidence.

      Plenty of resources available for this panic.

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      Last time I heard about this it was all over Facebook and shit.

      Then the government, police and drs came out and said there was no evidence and when you think about it it doesn't make any sense.

      Honestly how many women have you seen smash way way too many drinks and claim they got spiked. No you weigh fuck all, you were smashing drinks, thats why you can't stand. We've all drank too much.

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        Aside from the pricking scandal, what a fantastic idea.

        On "Fête de la Musique" people are urged to play music outside.

        Here my country is stuck with Christian holidays that noone remembers the meaning of.

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        We also have those Christian holidays in France, and fête de la musique is just one evening, not a holiday. But it is on the longest daylight day of the year, so that's nice.

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        • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

          after three people... reported feeling unwell.

          Well that's fair enough at any rate. So maybe at least this didn't get anyone seriously injured.

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          Article said cops were injured but didn't give details.

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          • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

            This is a panic that has come and gone multiple times even just during my lifetime. I remember the first time I heard about it was visitors to neighboring Tijuana with HIV infected blood on the 80s.
            Never once has it actually been confirmed to have happened.

            These are 145 self reports. Nothing confirmed. No video evidence.

            Plenty of resources available for this panic.

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            This is a real phenomenon, first widely reported in 2022. Due to some reason, it has resurged.

            Arrests in France after scores report being attacked with syringes at street music festival

            Millions of people took to the streets across France on Saturday evening for the Fête de la Musique, with authorities reporting “unprecedented crowds” in Paris. The feminist influencer Abrège Soeur warned online before the festival that calls had been made on social media for women to be targeted with syringes. It was not certain where such posts would have been made or by whom.

            The interior ministry said 145 victims across the country had reported being stabbed with needles during outdoor music events across the country. Paris police reported 13 cases in the capital. Officials did not say if these were cases of so-called needle spiking with date-rape drugs such as Rohypnol or GHB, used by attackers to render victims confused or unconscious and vulnerable to sexual assault. “Some victims were taken to hospital for toxicological tests,” the ministry said.

            In Paris, investigations were opened after three people, including a 15-year-old girl and an 18-year-old male, reported being stabbed in separate incidents across Paris, prosecutors said. All three reported feeling unwell. Across France, 12 suspects have been arrested, the interior ministry said. Among them were four people in the south-western city of Angoulême suspected of having targeted about 50 victims, a police source said.

            /.../ There was a wave of reports in 2022 about alleged syringe attacks against women and men in clubs, bars, music events and even theatres. The government put out messages at the time for people going out at night to be vigilant and advising them that they should go immediately to the police and also have a toxicology test if they thought they had been drugged by a syringe prick.

            Since another person linked to a story about this on Twitter, of all things, I did some background checking. Does not look like a "panic", but a new genre of crime.

            The mayor of the city of Metz, identifiable, writes on social media (Instagram) confirming the occurrence. Confirming that arrests have been made. Other sources (among them old media outlets like the Guardian, see above link) report about it.

            Incitement allegedly occurred over social media. It will be investigated where it occurred. Victims have been sent to toxicology. It will be investigated what was injected, if anything. Some victims reported feeling unwell.

            Guess: in a crowd, it is relatively easy to anonymously attack someone and hope to leave little evidence. However, this time, it has been claimed that some assailants were detained on the spot. There will be information confirming or denying this pretty soon.

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            • G [email protected]

              Tangentially, I was chatting with the owner of my local pub in Boston recently, and apparently it’s become something of a game (?!?!?!?!?) to try to slip people mickeys around here. As in, just see if you can sneak it into the drink, with no real intent of abuse or rape or whatever - just to see if you can do it.

              I fucking hate humans sometimes.

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              I mean i could see this actually being a good stunt to raise awareness about it. Like use something fake and safe like a time release tablet that makes the drink fizz up suddenly 30 seconds later, or causes the whole thing to turn colour rapidly or something. But i doubt thats whats happening. Might make for a funny party theme with a close group of friends who are all in on it and targeting each other though.

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              • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                This is a panic that has come and gone multiple times even just during my lifetime. I remember the first time I heard about it was visitors to neighboring Tijuana with HIV infected blood on the 80s.
                Never once has it actually been confirmed to have happened.

                These are 145 self reports. Nothing confirmed. No video evidence.

                Plenty of resources available for this panic.

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                Wait, are you trying to tell us that this is not true because there is no video evidence? Just hundreds of women being in panic? Wtf

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                  French police have detained 12 suspects after 145 people reported being pricked with syringes during the country's annual street music festival, officials said Sunday.

                  Millions of people took to the streets across France on Saturday evening for the Fete de la Musique, with authorities reporting "unprecedented crowds" in Paris.

                  Before the party, posts on social media had called for women to be targeted during the festivities.

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                  Could someone please shoot whoever wrote the headline?

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                  • G [email protected]

                    Tangentially, I was chatting with the owner of my local pub in Boston recently, and apparently it’s become something of a game (?!?!?!?!?) to try to slip people mickeys around here. As in, just see if you can sneak it into the drink, with no real intent of abuse or rape or whatever - just to see if you can do it.

                    I fucking hate humans sometimes.

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                    What’s a mickey?

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                    • samskara@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      What’s a mickey?

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                      Date rape drugs.

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                      • P [email protected]

                        Tangentially, I was chatting with the owner of my local pub in Boston recently, and apparently it’s become something of a game (?!?!?!?!?) to try to slip people mickeys around here.

                        In some time periods in some places in the world, getting a hand cut off was punishment for theft. While that is a bit extreme, maybe assholes convicted of this should lose the final knuckle of their pinky finger as punishment for drugging people at bars.

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                        There is a reason civilized countries don't do punishments like this any more - they don't work.

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                        • B [email protected]

                          French police have detained 12 suspects after 145 people reported being pricked with syringes during the country's annual street music festival, officials said Sunday.

                          Millions of people took to the streets across France on Saturday evening for the Fete de la Musique, with authorities reporting "unprecedented crowds" in Paris.

                          Before the party, posts on social media had called for women to be targeted during the festivities.

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                          People have different definitions of major incidents apparently...

                          "including a 17-year-old who was hospitalized after being found sitting on the street with stab wounds to the lower abdomen."

                          "The prefect of the Paris police, Laurent Nunez, said that "no major incident has been reported.""

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                          • K [email protected]

                            There is a reason civilized countries don't do punishments like this any more - they don't work.

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                            And you are never ever 100% certain they did it, even with eye witnesses.

                            So cutting fingers of innocent people is also a nono

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                            • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                              Anyone can file a police report. And if they believe they were a victim then they are more likely to do that.

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                              So they just imagined it, is that what you are saying?

                              And this info is based upon what exactly?

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                                French police have detained 12 suspects after 145 people reported being pricked with syringes during the country's annual street music festival, officials said Sunday.

                                Millions of people took to the streets across France on Saturday evening for the Fete de la Musique, with authorities reporting "unprecedented crowds" in Paris.

                                Before the party, posts on social media had called for women to be targeted during the festivities.

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                                Jfc what the fuck

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  People have different definitions of major incidents apparently...

                                  "including a 17-year-old who was hospitalized after being found sitting on the street with stab wounds to the lower abdomen."

                                  "The prefect of the Paris police, Laurent Nunez, said that "no major incident has been reported.""

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                                  I believe (and hope) that it's just ambiguously written, the first part is discussing incidents throughout the country while the prefect was obviously just talking about Paris.

                                  A lot of oddly worded bits in that article.

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                                  • H [email protected]

                                    So they just imagined it, is that what you are saying?

                                    And this info is based upon what exactly?

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                                    Did you read the link I included in my previous comment?

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      Wait, are you trying to tell us that this is not true because there is no video evidence? Just hundreds of women being in panic? Wtf

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                                      I'm saying that in the past every incidence or this has been alleged turned out to be mass panic. And at today's age of constant video surveillance there would be evidence, not just reports. So either this is the very first case in the world where this is actually true and we will find that out through the evidence or we're going to find out that it's not true and then it matches all the previous events. But police reports do not make something real.

                                      I'm asking people to look at the evidence.

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                                      • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                        I'm saying that in the past every incidence or this has been alleged turned out to be mass panic. And at today's age of constant video surveillance there would be evidence, not just reports. So either this is the very first case in the world where this is actually true and we will find that out through the evidence or we're going to find out that it's not true and then it matches all the previous events. But police reports do not make something real.

                                        I'm asking people to look at the evidence.

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                                        145 women speaking up is evidence of this happening

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                                        • fauxpseudo@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                          I'm saying that in the past every incidence or this has been alleged turned out to be mass panic. And at today's age of constant video surveillance there would be evidence, not just reports. So either this is the very first case in the world where this is actually true and we will find that out through the evidence or we're going to find out that it's not true and then it matches all the previous events. But police reports do not make something real.

                                          I'm asking people to look at the evidence.

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                                          Maybe trust the victims first and if there is evidence against it doubt?

                                          Edit: As I dit not write that clear enough: If people are accused of course not just lock them up but if hundreds of people report that they are victims of a crime don't just call bs.

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