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Trump rescinds protections on 59m acres of national forest to allow logging

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  • V [email protected]

    I have no idea how big an acre or a hectare is, I have no idea who the people the article is referring to are. I see 0 mentions of the effects this will have on global climate. All hallmarks of a US centric article. This is not world news and it clearly caters to American interests.

    Edit: I’d love to read an article about the global ramifications of this on the whole planet in its entirety, but I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

    That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

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    I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

    You should be keen on reading about anybody who dares to speak up against the current US administration from the inside, instead of belittling such actions. Ultimately it does concern you, too.

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      An individual old tree may compared to an individual young tree, but a young forest captures more carbon. And that's not even accounting for if/when the old tree burns anyway.

      *Love that facts get downvoted.

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      Love that facts get downvoted

      You just claim what you said is fact, then get all prissy about it.

      I'm sure that will get you fewer downvotes?

      You want to have a good faith discussion about this? It's not a simple equation. All in all it's usually better to NOT cut down old forests. You have to consider the whole ecosystem.

      Also, I'm sure Trump had our carbon emissions in mind when he rescinded those protections, hm?

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      • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

        I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

        You should be keen on reading about anybody who dares to speak up against the current US administration from the inside, instead of belittling such actions. Ultimately it does concern you, too.

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        If something comes of it, sure. Unfortunately it’s mostly incessant noise at this point. The only ones affecting actual change right now are SF people, and I do follow the news about that part of the country.

        Edit: and I am not belittling anyone, merely saying that this is regional news and an article that doesn’t belong here.

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          why is this weird like, anti-american-exceptionalism so prevalent on the internet?

          it’s so reactionary. you’re… actively engaging in the same kind of thought process that is the secret ingredient to american stupidity. if you’re not careful what’s happened and happening here will happen wherever you are, if it hasn’t already. and this sort of shit is why…

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          #17

          That was just exasperation (which I can understand), but their subsequent comment unfortunately shows much more of what they're about.

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          • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

            Love that facts get downvoted

            You just claim what you said is fact, then get all prissy about it.

            I'm sure that will get you fewer downvotes?

            You want to have a good faith discussion about this? It's not a simple equation. All in all it's usually better to NOT cut down old forests. You have to consider the whole ecosystem.

            Also, I'm sure Trump had our carbon emissions in mind when he rescinded those protections, hm?

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            I'm not pissy, I love watching it. Y'all's actions are your own, whatever they are. Good faith discussion starts in recognizing facts, not downvoting them. The whole ecosystem is better with a range of young and old forests. I didn't comment on Trump, I commented on facts. I think logging, like every industry, has to be done properly.

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            • a_norny_mousse@feddit.orgA [email protected]

              I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

              You should be keen on reading about anybody who dares to speak up against the current US administration from the inside, instead of belittling such actions. Ultimately it does concern you, too.

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              #19

              Rule 1 literally states "no internal US news". This is internal US news. Not world news.

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                I mean, the article still makes sense, just like all the articles about Bolsonaro revoking protections for the Amazon make sense, it cumulatively affects everyone, even if you're on the other side of the planet

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                The community rules state no internal US news. Plain and simple.

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                • V [email protected]

                  I have no idea how big an acre or a hectare is, I have no idea who the people the article is referring to are. I see 0 mentions of the effects this will have on global climate. All hallmarks of a US centric article. This is not world news and it clearly caters to American interests.

                  Edit: I’d love to read an article about the global ramifications of this on the whole planet in its entirety, but I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                  That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

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                  #21

                  That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

                  The exposition that you've latched onto is typical of news articles everywhere. As with countless others, the article conveys more than that. You don't have to value the exposition. The headline conveniently gives you all you need in order to decide whether to skip it.

                  The news here is that a significant portion of the world's trees, upon which we all depend, are being put on the chopping block. I consider that world news, just as I do when Brazil does it.

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                  • V [email protected]

                    This is not world news.

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                    I think any single nation making big environment and climate wrecking moves should count.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      The community rules state no internal US news. Plain and simple.

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                      #23

                      internal news would be 'so and so won the lottery' or 'city eminate domains affordable housing for shopping center'

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                        internal news would be 'so and so won the lottery' or 'city eminate domains affordable housing for shopping center'

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                        #24

                        No, internal news would be "US cuts down forest in the US" which has absolutely no impact on the world at all. No other country is involved. Just the US. Meaning this is internal US news.

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                        • V [email protected]

                          I have no idea how big an acre or a hectare is, I have no idea who the people the article is referring to are. I see 0 mentions of the effects this will have on global climate. All hallmarks of a US centric article. This is not world news and it clearly caters to American interests.

                          Edit: I’d love to read an article about the global ramifications of this on the whole planet in its entirety, but I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                          That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

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                          Its pretty easy to search a conversion. 58m acres is about the size of the entire UK.

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                          • V [email protected]

                            I have no idea how big an acre or a hectare is, I have no idea who the people the article is referring to are. I see 0 mentions of the effects this will have on global climate. All hallmarks of a US centric article. This is not world news and it clearly caters to American interests.

                            Edit: I’d love to read an article about the global ramifications of this on the whole planet in its entirety, but I’m not too keen on reading about governor XYZ of state UVW bashing republicans and The Congress.

                            That’s internal US politics that I have no interest in starting my day with.

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                            If you don't even know how big an acre or hectare is, you are either very young or you missed basic schooling.

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                              #27

                              And, again, World is not for US News.

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