Bazzite founder might shutdown whole project if Fedora drops support for 32 bit packages
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wrote last edited by [email protected]
I would be shocked if Fedora went through with it. If anyone remembers canonical tried to do this with you one to some years ago. They backed down then after push back as well.
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Ah yeah. Would be unfortunate. Bazzite was the least amount of setup i've ever had to do with linux and is the only repo I could recommend to someone non-technical
There are others like it and some better for those who are both non-technical and non-gamers. What you’re looking for is “immutable distro” https://itsfoss.com/immutable-linux-distros/
which is a distro of Linux that is very user friendly, much like Windows, in not allowing major changes to the OS. SteamOS is this as well.It makes setup and updates much easier to manage and easier for users to use because it just works most of the time.
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steam package from rpmfusion is not official
Ah you're right. It seems Steam only provides a *.deb as far as I can tell.
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Shit, now i gotta do the distribution shuffle again.
where we goin
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Shit, now i gotta do the distribution shuffle again.
It's way too early to make that call. This is a proposal for collecting feedback. I am not sure if this has been proposed before, but I would guess you would make these proposals from time to time to gauge the feedback, and when you see support for keeping it fall to a low level you can finally make the jump. As one of the comments in the thread mentions, now might not be the right time but you can't keep supporting it forever. Eventually you push 32 bit apps into emulators like what happened with 16 bit.
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Afaik Steam still heavily relies on 32-Bit. And bazzite's only purpose is Steam.
If bazzites only purpose is steam then it would’ve probably "died" anyway when Holo Desktop releases
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Shit, now i gotta do the distribution shuffle again.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Too early, as the other comment said... However, if this happens, I'd hope that the SteamOS desktop image will be officially available which seems pretty similar to Bazzite, but based on Arch instead of Fedora.
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Why would they not just use an Arch base like the real SteamOS does?
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Why would they not just use an Arch base like the real SteamOS does?
Fedora and Red Hat are innovating image-based operating systems. Universal Blue builds on that work.
It would take effort to port that work to Arch. Arch is also a rolling distro, not updating means not getting security updates. Fedora's release cycle allows them to get more stability, they don't have to be using the latest version.
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Glad I didnt install bazzite.
what did you go with?
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Dammit - found Bazzite one week ago and love it - now its embroiled in a controversy.
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lmao hope this amounts to a bunch of linux newbies learning what distro hopping is.
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Fedora and Red Hat are innovating image-based operating systems. Universal Blue builds on that work.
It would take effort to port that work to Arch. Arch is also a rolling distro, not updating means not getting security updates. Fedora's release cycle allows them to get more stability, they don't have to be using the latest version.
That's reasonable. Thanks!
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lmao hope this amounts to a bunch of linux newbies learning what distro hopping is.
Nobara gave me a month to start
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base your whole project on a corporate Nazi shill company like IBM and find out.
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Dammit - found Bazzite one week ago and love it - now its embroiled in a controversy.
Same here. Nobara was too glitchy so I switched to Bazzite and love it so far. Sigh.
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I would be shocked if Fedora went through with it. If anyone remembers canonical tried to do this with you one to some years ago. They backed down then after push back as well.
You one to
What. The. Fuck.
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As reiterated by the OP, the proposal is just a proposal and was proposed with heaps of lead time probably because they expected it to be controversial.
As also mentioned, heaps of volunteer time is spent maintaining the packages where most are barely used (even for gaming).
However, it does not seem like there is a viable alternative. Many comments say the suggested alternative, WINE's WoW64, does not work for all games.
I can see both sides here. Fedora maintainers says "this is so much work!" and (mostly) gamers saying "But older games will stop working!".
The response from the Bazzite guy does seem overblown to me. I would think the first step is to work out the impact, as I haven't seen anyone quantify what proportion of games are affected and if there are alternatives like emulation.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm wondering what the problem even is. I mean, can't you just put all the stuff relevant to 32 bit gaming into a 'retro-gaming' package and be like "there, now if you want updates, better find maintainers"?
If you have an old game, chances are you won't need many new features. Only problem could be other packages or the kernel becoming incompatible. I don't know how relevant that is in this instance.
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lmao hope this amounts to a bunch of linux newbies learning what distro hopping is.
Why would distro hopping be a good thing? I thought that was a problem, hoping from one distro to the next not settling on one. I always see people encouraging newbies to stick to one and learn how Linux works.
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what did you go with?
I've heard CachyOS is good but I'm not the one to ask.
