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Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

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    #83

    600 euros? That's like 700 USD

    Remind me again, wasn't like 80% of the American population on the verge of poverty and homelessness if a 500 USD emergency happened?

    Who's benefiting from this?

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    • electrolisa@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

      Degoogled version is €50 more, for whatever reason

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      People don’t want to pay for privacy. That’s the real problem with end users. Imagine if more people did so. What a world we could have. Nah. Let’s be cheap AF!

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      • S [email protected]

        600 euros? That's like 700 USD

        Remind me again, wasn't like 80% of the American population on the verge of poverty and homelessness if a 500 USD emergency happened?

        Who's benefiting from this?

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        Ethically sourced, fair wages to workers, etc. Makes you wonder what a factory worker in china makes to allow for cheaper phones.

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        • S [email protected]

          600 euros? That's like 700 USD

          Remind me again, wasn't like 80% of the American population on the verge of poverty and homelessness if a 500 USD emergency happened?

          Who's benefiting from this?

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          They are hardly even in the US market. Only via Murena with their e/OS/.

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            Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?

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            • S [email protected]

              600 euros? That's like 700 USD

              Remind me again, wasn't like 80% of the American population on the verge of poverty and homelessness if a 500 USD emergency happened?

              Who's benefiting from this?

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              Who in the US is buying midrange or flagship phones without a loan?

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                600 euros? That's like 700 USD

                Remind me again, wasn't like 80% of the American population on the verge of poverty and homelessness if a 500 USD emergency happened?

                Who's benefiting from this?

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                Ooo they sell these in the US?

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                  It's too bad they dont ship to Canada. I'm in the market for a new phone and would seriously consider this.

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                  Same US. EU gets the best stuff.

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                  • electrolisa@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

                    I want my photos to be grainy, with natural lens distortion, instead of current trend of pictures being shouty to look good on social media

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                    You can shoot RAW on your phone today.

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                      #92

                      Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).

                      Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.

                      Then to make matters worse, it is difficult to source spare parts for the fairphone 4 (according to a friend of mine who owns one that he bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.

                      It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.

                      Do not buy.

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                      • chairmanmeow@programming.devC [email protected]

                        I've never had one of those actually work...

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                        The sound quality on them blows no matter which you get.

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                          3.5mm Jack or - sadly - GTFO

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                          They have adapters. But yeah, would be nice to have a slot directly integrated.

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                            Fuck these guys... Seriously. I bought a phone off of them hyped at the idea of the ethics. It didn't work on arrival. Over 3 months later and not one single reply to my helpdesk request (other than the Automated acknowledgement of receipt).

                            Unbelievably bad user experience, I went from hyped at the concept of reducing my production of electronic waste to beyond disappointed at a brutally bad user experience.

                            Then to make matters worse, it is difficult to source spare parts for the fairphone 4 (according to a friend of mine who owns one that he bought a while ago)... Like is that not the entire point of the phone, reduced consumption of new phones by supporting repairs. If you're going to stop producing the spares at least release the patents then.. if you really believe in the promoted ideals that you spout... Which they clearly do not.

                            It turns out that it's just another money hungry company hell bent on burning the planet down to see a line go up, as far as I'm concerned. All gaff to sell shite phones at higher prices.

                            Do not buy.

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                            All I needed to know was when they released their BT earbuds just when the jack port got removed to figure out where their priorities are.

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                              Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?

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                              Probably yes.

                              And probably due to EU mandating new phones to be supported for longer.

                              https://energy-efficient-products.ec.europa.eu/product-list/smartphones-and-tablets_en

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                                People don’t want to pay for privacy. That’s the real problem with end users. Imagine if more people did so. What a world we could have. Nah. Let’s be cheap AF!

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                                Locking privacy behind a paywall? Sounds like a nightmare.

                                That’s the real problem with end users.

                                The real problem with end users is that they buy according to whatever needs corpos inject via advertising.

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                                  This is nice for Europe I guess, and I want to like the fairphone, but unfortunately it's not viable for me.

                                  Besides basic phone features and the ability to run Android apps I have 3 requirements, 2 of which the fairphone fails at. I need it to be usable in the US on my phone carrier. I need to be able to use Google Pay or another mobile payment alternative (that's accepted in most stores). Finally it needs to have at least a 48 hour battery life.

                                  Fairphone unfortunately doesn't work in the US with most carriers, and the one that kills not only it but all the de-googled phones, it doesn't support mobile payment of any kind. I've done a ton of research trying to find some kind of fix for that second point because I'd gladly use something like GrapheneOS if I could, but every time the answer I come to is it's just not possible.

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                                    Pixel is build by Foxxcon. Foxxcon has 3.5 stars on Glassdoor.
                                    From what I found Fairphone is build by TCL which has 3.2 stars on Glassdoor.

                                    It's all still made in Asia. It's really hard to monitor conditions there and it's pretty much impossible to monitor conditions at every step of the supply chain. I understand paying extra for a more sustainable phone (repairable, longer support) but paying double for a vague promise of being more "fair"? Thanks by no thanks. Pixel has 8 years of support now so the difference in sustainability is minimal.

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                                    The final assembly is only part of the story though. As far as I understand, fairphone does actually try to check their supply chain to ensure the raw materials are (more) ethically sourced. As opposed to those optimizing for profit, who will intentionally look the other way.

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                                      This is nice for Europe I guess, and I want to like the fairphone, but unfortunately it's not viable for me.

                                      Besides basic phone features and the ability to run Android apps I have 3 requirements, 2 of which the fairphone fails at. I need it to be usable in the US on my phone carrier. I need to be able to use Google Pay or another mobile payment alternative (that's accepted in most stores). Finally it needs to have at least a 48 hour battery life.

                                      Fairphone unfortunately doesn't work in the US with most carriers, and the one that kills not only it but all the de-googled phones, it doesn't support mobile payment of any kind. I've done a ton of research trying to find some kind of fix for that second point because I'd gladly use something like GrapheneOS if I could, but every time the answer I come to is it's just not possible.

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                                      That too has to to with the fact that all of that is an impenetrable black box. Google gets access, but if your oso isn't Google, amor is rooted, they won't allow you access "for security"

                                      Never mind that the banking web version works fine in any OS including Linux, no safety issues there (nor should there be any) but the app? Yeah, Google only and it's all because of security. Uh huh...

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                                        That too has to to with the fact that all of that is an impenetrable black box. Google gets access, but if your oso isn't Google, amor is rooted, they won't allow you access "for security"

                                        Never mind that the banking web version works fine in any OS including Linux, no safety issues there (nor should there be any) but the app? Yeah, Google only and it's all because of security. Uh huh...

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                                        That's certainly part of it, but I'd use any mobile payment app, not just Googles one, but there's basically zero competition there. Some banks apparently had their own mobile payment support briefly, but it seems like just about every single one of them has removed that feature and replaced it with a wrapper around Google Pay.

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                                          I saw list item 1 more as "I want my phone to last for 5+ years, so I will want to replace my battery eventually", rather than "I wanna wreck my battery fast, so it better be replaceable". Being wasteful with your battery like that goes against the spirit of Fairphone, IMO.

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                                          If it's removable you can much more easily recycle it though. Sustainably that is much much better than average phones.

                                          However, while more sustainable than current it is not the most sustainable if you charge it like that

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