Can't make this up
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So extremists are telling other extremists to leave New York?
Don’t let the door hit ya where Yahweh split ya.
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Trump bragged about having the tallest building in NY after terrorists took out the Twin Towers on 9/11. Then, 24 years later, he complimented and shook the hand of a man who
orderedinspired and cheered for the attacks, in front of the US Secretary of Commerce whose brother and staff were killed.But sure, tell me how the front-runner for mayor being a member of the same religion is the bigger deal.
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I assume they're talking about Ahmad al-Sharaa: https://abcnews.go.com/International/al-qaeda-syrias-presidency-rise-ahmad-al-sharaa/story?id=121788656 although I'm unsure about the claim of "ordering the attacks"
Thanks! That article suggests another was the plotter:
“Unlike some terrorist leaders -- including Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the late leader of the Islamic State jihadist group, and Ayman al-Zawahiri, the late al-Qaeda chief and accused plotter of the 9/11 terrorist attacks -- al-Sharaa has not been known as a charismatic leader, said Warrick.”
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I assume they're talking about Ahmad al-Sharaa: https://abcnews.go.com/International/al-qaeda-syrias-presidency-rise-ahmad-al-sharaa/story?id=121788656 although I'm unsure about the claim of "ordering the attacks"
The depressing thing is that I thought they were referring to the Saudis and the latest U.S. investment trip.
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why? what?
Betar is an Israeli terrorist organisation (literally). Currently they give Donald Trump orders on which pro-Palestinian activists to deport.
In New York, the Democratic primary was just won by Zohran Mamdhani, who actively opposes Israel and wants to impose sanctions against Israel until it complies by international law.
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Thanks! That article suggests another was the plotter:
“Unlike some terrorist leaders -- including Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the late leader of the Islamic State jihadist group, and Ayman al-Zawahiri, the late al-Qaeda chief and accused plotter of the 9/11 terrorist attacks -- al-Sharaa has not been known as a charismatic leader, said Warrick.”
That article suggests another was the plotter
Not to mention that al-Sharaa was a 19-year-old with no known status in any groups at the time of the 9/11 attacks.
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Israelis giving New York Jews more notice of a future Muslim Mayor than they gave of 9/11.
Curious.
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Without knowing who they are, this reads like an anti-Semitic tweet.
Would be really funny if someone started a thread accusing them of such.
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I just connected it now. Is all the 911 drama actually about a mayoral candidate being a muslim? Are you fucking serious. I though i couldnt be any more dissapointed in people but apparently ive just been proved wrong again.
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So extremists are telling other extremists to leave New York?
Don’t let the door hit ya where Yahweh split ya.
New York Jews are not extremists, though? They're just normal people who happen to be Jewish
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New York Jews are not extremists, though? They're just normal people who happen to be Jewish
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Indeed, they bend a LOT of the rules of their religion just to be able to claim that they still follow it. See this cop-out, which they use to get around most of the rules of Shabbat. Then again, they do similar things in Jerusalem with the whole "make this one gentile the technical owner of all the bread in Israel for passover" thing, so I guess this isn't actually a good example.
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Indeed, they bend a LOT of the rules of their religion just to be able to claim that they still follow it. See this cop-out, which they use to get around most of the rules of Shabbat. Then again, they do similar things in Jerusalem with the whole "make this one gentile the technical owner of all the bread in Israel for passover" thing, so I guess this isn't actually a good example.
Bending the rules is very much a part of Orthodox Judaism for sure - it's the only way to exist in today's world. I've heard (from an Orthodox Jew I worked for) that priests talk to God and Rabbis argue. Questioning - or rather, being critical of - your faith is encourage.
But most jews in New York aren't Orthodox. Most don't even go to Temple weekly.
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Trump bragged about having the tallest building in NY after terrorists took out the Twin Towers on 9/11. Then, 24 years later, he complimented and shook the hand of a man who
orderedinspired and cheered for the attacks, in front of the US Secretary of Commerce whose brother and staff were killed.But sure, tell me how the front-runner for mayor being a member of the same religion is the bigger deal.
That's quite a claim to provide without evidence.
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Bending the rules is very much a part of Orthodox Judaism for sure - it's the only way to exist in today's world. I've heard (from an Orthodox Jew I worked for) that priests talk to God and Rabbis argue. Questioning - or rather, being critical of - your faith is encourage.
But most jews in New York aren't Orthodox. Most don't even go to Temple weekly.
Fair, I like that analogy. I realized that the way I phrased it sounded rather dismissive of the practices which, honestly, I am, but it seemed overly harsh, so I deleted it
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I just connected it now. Is all the 911 drama actually about a mayoral candidate being a muslim? Are you fucking serious. I though i couldnt be any more dissapointed in people but apparently ive just been proved wrong again.
Remember that he's got the votes though. He's still got the general election to go through but despite all this hatred ... a majority saw through it. Let's hang onto some hope. The world is so shitty right now.
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New York Jews are not extremists, though? They're just normal people who happen to be Jewish
Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn't claim all Jews are extremist, it's also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal.....which is a matter of perspective.
Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.
Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.
This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.
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Betar, famous for anti-semetic attacks on jews critical of Israel. They forced a "pager" in to the breastpocket of Norman Finkelstein and called him a holocaust denier of all things. His entire family was exterminated ffs.
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Fair, I like that analogy. I realized that the way I phrased it sounded rather dismissive of the practices which, honestly, I am, but it seemed overly harsh, so I deleted it
I'm not Jewish myself but it's a really cool religion. Not that you asked, but my favorite rule bend in my time working with the Orthodox fellas was "shabbat mode" on his automation system. Using electricity is fine but they can't use any sort of switch (flipping a switch = creating a tiny spark = creating flame, which is prohibited) so there was the obvious lighting automation BUT his wife requested an automated outlet in the kitchen and I asked by boss why...it was so she could plug in a hot plate before Sabbath and it would turn it on at 6 so she could serve a warm meal.
I really disliked that client but I loved that shit.
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I'm not Jewish myself but it's a really cool religion. Not that you asked, but my favorite rule bend in my time working with the Orthodox fellas was "shabbat mode" on his automation system. Using electricity is fine but they can't use any sort of switch (flipping a switch = creating a tiny spark = creating flame, which is prohibited) so there was the obvious lighting automation BUT his wife requested an automated outlet in the kitchen and I asked by boss why...it was so she could plug in a hot plate before Sabbath and it would turn it on at 6 so she could serve a warm meal.
I really disliked that client but I loved that shit.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]HAHA, if nothing else, that's certainly a justification.
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Eh, I guess it's a matter of perspective. Just like you shouldn't claim all Jews are extremist, it's also inaccurate to claim that all New York Jews are just normal people who happen to be Jewish. That is unless you believe holding extremist political views is perfectly normal.....which is a matter of perspective.
Imo the Jewish community has gone pretty far to the right, a similar response to America after 9/11. Even a lot of the prior moderate American Jewish community has recently adopted some pretty hard right stances when it comes to Palestine.
Just looking at Jewish communities on places like reddit can be pretty wild as far as how common it is for people to respond to valid criticism of the Israeli state as antisemitic hate crimes.
This is the inherent problem of ethno-states, it creates room for forced conflations between ethnicity and nationality.
The majority of Jews in New York are secular and therefore don't have a mouthpiece like the major Orthodox groups. And it's not even like orthodoxy is even "extreme"
A fraction of Jews are Orthodox and a fraction of those Orthodox Jews are extremists. So yeah, I wasn't 100% correct but it's not even in the same ballpark as what I replied to.
