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Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs

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    as customers switch to Chinese EVs

    Sure. That's the reason.

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      My government just added a controversial extra tax on EVs because they tear up the roads and cause additional particles, because they are really heavy and most of them have a better than usual torque.

      You can really see how road quality went to shit after EVs became mainstream.

      Making batteries is also a really ugly business and far from environmental.

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      That is not even remotely why they added a tax on EVs. The reason they added the extra tax is because they make a ton of money by taxing gas and as EVs are gaining popularity they're starting to see their tax revenues plummet. There is a nugget of truth in that some of those tax revenues are used to pay for maintaining the roads and that EVs do still put wear and tear on the roads, but it's not that they're destroying roads any more than any other car does.

      If you're seeing a drop in road quality it's because your government isn't paying to have the roads maintained like they have in the past, not because there are more EVs driving around.

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      • S [email protected]

        How many of those got up on stage with the seal of the president of the United States and did one of the most identifiable actions of the last true fascist regime? musk was able to spend $250 million to pretend to be president for a few months to kneecap the US government and kill all the investigations into his illegal dealings as well as reward his companies with lucrative government contracts. I'd love to see any of those tinpot dictators and "communist" leaders do that.

        Putin is the head of the paper tiger Russia. If they didn't have nukes the US probably would have steam rolled them back in 2014 when they took Crimea. If the world actually gave Ukraine the weapons and resources to do it, I have no doubt they could be at Moscow's door in a couple months.

        Kim Jung Un is the head of a pariah state who relies on worldwide aide so that his people don't starve more than they already are starving.

        Sure Xi is the head of the state in which there is obviously genocide happening, but he's not running a car company, which is what this whole article is about.

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        Riiight. Listen, this isn't going anywhere. You think a salute is worse than a genocide, musk is a greater threat than dictators with nukes, and there's no way I'm going to change your mind. I'm going to peace out

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          Ah. Good to know- I didn't read the article, but that's kind of my point, really. Most people don't, and media outlets know that. The headline is all that "carries". A better headline would include the Nazi stuff AND Chinese EVs. I think they deliberately avoided that and tucked it in the article.

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          My dude you can't admit you didn't read the article then defend the fact that you didn't read it like that. Just read it and then comment lol

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            Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency 🙂

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            The public transport bus I take to and from work is a Chinese made electric. It's a Yutong E15.

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              My dude you can't admit you didn't read the article then defend the fact that you didn't read it like that. Just read it and then comment lol

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              My comment is about the headline. Yes?

              I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to.

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                Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency 🙂

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                I don't want to be like China though /s

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                  Root for better public transport and active cities instead of car dependency 🙂

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                  i am lucky, my city has excellent public transport, that doesn't stop people from using cars though. be it because of pure habit, or because public transport is not solution for everything.

                  so i'd rather if our european car industry wasn't decimated by the chinese one.

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                    I did not forget my argument. I think the world would be a better place without CEOs in general. If you really think every CEO is a Nazi in sheep's clothing, then you should probably get your head checked.

                    As far as I know a corporation isn't the government of China and doesn't have much say over the Chinese government committing their own genocide.

                    My reading comprehension is fine, you're just comparing Nazis to oranges.

                    I also don't use the cesspool that is twitter.

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                    you should probably get your head checked.

                    oh yeah, one of us should definitely have their head checked. you have a nice day.

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                      Ah. Good to know- I didn't read the article, but that's kind of my point, really. Most people don't, and media outlets know that. The headline is all that "carries". A better headline would include the Nazi stuff AND Chinese EVs. I think they deliberately avoided that and tucked it in the article.

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                      The headline to me clearly is stating that people are not buying Teslas and are buying alternative Chinese based EVs instead. I think that anyone that's heard Elon's name over the past 6 months can read between the lines and understand the causation here.

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                        Hitler was "incendiary" and "political" but I think there's a four-letter word so much better, so much more concise, that this wording is actual disinformation.

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                          USA could have spent money developing an electrified economy but the republicans are focusing on bringing back coal mining and reshoring shoe manufacturing instead.

                          This admin has set the USA back 100 years.

                          ETA - what I mean is that China is rampaging on in electrification, developing manufacturing skills, infrastructure, and design/engineering/technology around renewables and electrification. Europe is thinking about it but not going crazy to the extent China is, because legacy - China doesn’t have 100 years of cars and 150 years of trains; they’re building new. USA meanwhile is actively regressing under Republican policies.

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                          The problem is systemic, it didn’t start with Trump. He’s just way more flagrant.

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                            i am afraid it is just that most CEOs are sane enough to keep their embarrassing moments for their private life. do you think musk is the only narcissistic psychopath on drugs in the business world?

                            this is not advocating for musk, but it is important to be grounded in reality 😉

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                            To be fair, I think most of USA is on recreational drugs, legal, illegal, or “prescription”. That shouldn’t matter as much compared to his other actions.

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                              My government just added a controversial extra tax on EVs because they tear up the roads and cause additional particles, because they are really heavy and most of them have a better than usual torque.

                              You can really see how road quality went to shit after EVs became mainstream.

                              Making batteries is also a really ugly business and far from environmental.

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                              I can't find anything on such a tax?

                              I feel like there has been an uptick in pro oil bots in the past week. Oil is a pretty ugly business too? What is wrong with you people.

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                                USA could have spent money developing an electrified economy but the republicans are focusing on bringing back coal mining and reshoring shoe manufacturing instead.

                                This admin has set the USA back 100 years.

                                ETA - what I mean is that China is rampaging on in electrification, developing manufacturing skills, infrastructure, and design/engineering/technology around renewables and electrification. Europe is thinking about it but not going crazy to the extent China is, because legacy - China doesn’t have 100 years of cars and 150 years of trains; they’re building new. USA meanwhile is actively regressing under Republican policies.

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                                Which kind of blows my mind. Coal miners should love EVs. There was a story in the news a few years ago about how nice it was for the miners to help someone in an EV, as if they should be mortal enemies.

                                Non-EV cars don't run on coal, they run on gasoline. EVs on the other hand can run on coal, natural gas, solar, wind, you name it - and still are more energy efficient than cars burning gasoline. In a sane world, coal miners would be throwing their support behind electric vehicles. The utility companies seem to understand this, but seems like the support hasn't made its way up the supply chain.

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                                  They make decent "point A to point B" cars, but that's about it. They take a long time to charge, and when that battery is due for replacement, it might just total the car.

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                                  It's been shown again and again that evs require less maintenance.

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                                    I own BYD and it is a great car. Very pleased with it.

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                                      To be fair, I think most of USA is on recreational drugs, legal, illegal, or “prescription”. That shouldn’t matter as much compared to his other actions.

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                                      what he does in his free time is one thing (i don't care about that), being high when he is working for a government ruining people's lives and jobs is another.

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                                        Riiight. Listen, this isn't going anywhere. You think a salute is worse than a genocide, musk is a greater threat than dictators with nukes, and there's no way I'm going to change your mind. I'm going to peace out

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                                        In a couple months a drug fueled musk did to the US what Xi and Putin have been trying to do for decades. It most certainly wasn't just his salute that made me think that.

                                        You could change my mind if you brought any information to the table that shows how those two are worse than musk.

                                        Enjoy your day.

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                                          My comment is about the headline. Yes?

                                          I read that. Everyone read that. That's what my comment is referring to.

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                                          You could just say, "you're right, I probably should have."

                                          Try it sometime, it's nice.

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