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Interesting that Q essntially fills up for every other character in the initialism, incluing the + which essenially acts as an etc. to said initialism. One can pretty much choose and pick which letters to use when crafting their usage of an initialism, and which letters to hide in the +. One could call it the LBT+ community, or the L+, or T+. Or B+. Or just call it + for maximum efficiency. Or you could just call it the Q community, as Q encompasses everything else. What some otherwise call the Queer community
Edit: I am no expert. Let the gays correct me if needed be
A big downside to that is that queer was originally insult and some people have negative associations with it and therefore avoid it and might not want to be categorized as such I have heard the "queer community" be used especially in spoken language. The letters LGBT have also been around for a while so it would be weird to get rid of them now.
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I think the point is that the classification into discrete categories is kind of contrary to the point of queerness.
I don't really see how you got that from the comment but that would be a good point.
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I don't really see how you got that from the comment but that would be a good point.
Yeah im probably reading too much into it.
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I usually only hear LGBTQIA+ which has the I for intersex and the A Aro/Ace spectrum. The Q is just queer which is a an umbrella term for everything. I don't really see the issue with others though, I also wouldn't know how to make it less complicated in any language. Describing oneself as straight is just comparatively easy as it one thing rather than every other sexuality + also gender stuff. Being homosexual is also just one word and no more difficult.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]If "queer" is an umbrella term then why wouldn't the whole community just be referred to as such?
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A big downside to that is that queer was originally insult and some people have negative associations with it and therefore avoid it and might not want to be categorized as such I have heard the "queer community" be used especially in spoken language. The letters LGBT have also been around for a while so it would be weird to get rid of them now.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Acts of consentuality. I feel I want to be informed and so I try to keep up, but no one should have the burden of having to keep up with any changes in verbage. I think it would be nice to have it voiced as simply as consentual. There really is no other information anyone should care about. Sex/gender/number of people, none of it matters.
Whether they marry monogamously, date openly, love however the person chooses to. It isn't for me to cast my opinion on their acts, so it may cause harm to put detailed labels, as then they are easier to be weaponized.
That doesn't mean people shouldn't or couldn't openly discuss their choices, just that when you make the boxes and ask people to put themselves in them, then the boxes divide the people, which is easier to "conquer"
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I usually only hear LGBTQIA+ which has the I for intersex and the A Aro/Ace spectrum. The Q is just queer which is a an umbrella term for everything. I don't really see the issue with others though, I also wouldn't know how to make it less complicated in any language. Describing oneself as straight is just comparatively easy as it one thing rather than every other sexuality + also gender stuff. Being homosexual is also just one word and no more difficult.
As a way to simplify, I’ve always like GSM: Gender and Sexual Minorities. Seems to encompass everything without prioritizing any of the letters, and doesn’t require choosing an arbitrary stop point for which letters to list or not list.
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not very active yet unfortunately but it was more of a hit than one would think on reddit
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I think Sigurd Felix Wolfgang Atreides has some very rich parents.
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As a way to simplify, I’ve always like GSM: Gender and Sexual Minorities. Seems to encompass everything without prioritizing any of the letters, and doesn’t require choosing an arbitrary stop point for which letters to list or not list.
My nerdy ass brain was like "how in the Windows environment can someone like GSM" and then I continued reading…
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"The terms pansexual, omnisexual, fluid and queer-identified are regarded as falling under the umbrella term bisexual (and therefore are considered a part of the bisexual community). Some use LGBT+ to mean "LGBT and related communities".[29] Other variants may have a "U" for "unsure"; a "C" for "curious"; another "T" for "transvestite"; a "TS", "2S", or "2" for "two-spirit" persons; or an "SA" for "straight allies".[48][49][50][51][52] The inclusion of straight allies in the LGBT initialism has proven controversial, as many straight allies have been accused of using LGBT advocacy to gain popularity and status in recent years,[53] and various LGBT activists have criticised the heteronormative worldview of certain straight allies.[54] Some may also add a "P" for "polyamorous" or "pangender", an "H" for "HIV-affected", or an "O" for "other".[14][55] The initialism LGBTIH has seen use in India to encompass the hijra third gender identity and the related subculture.[56][57]"
Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol.
There are straight trans people in the LGBT community. It's not as simple as "not straight".
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"The terms pansexual, omnisexual, fluid and queer-identified are regarded as falling under the umbrella term bisexual (and therefore are considered a part of the bisexual community). Some use LGBT+ to mean "LGBT and related communities".[29] Other variants may have a "U" for "unsure"; a "C" for "curious"; another "T" for "transvestite"; a "TS", "2S", or "2" for "two-spirit" persons; or an "SA" for "straight allies".[48][49][50][51][52] The inclusion of straight allies in the LGBT initialism has proven controversial, as many straight allies have been accused of using LGBT advocacy to gain popularity and status in recent years,[53] and various LGBT activists have criticised the heteronormative worldview of certain straight allies.[54] Some may also add a "P" for "polyamorous" or "pangender", an "H" for "HIV-affected", or an "O" for "other".[14][55] The initialism LGBTIH has seen use in India to encompass the hijra third gender identity and the related subculture.[56][57]"
Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol.
as a member of the letter gang, can we just call ourselves the letter gang and be done with it?
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My nerdy ass brain was like "how in the Windows environment can someone like GSM" and then I continued reading…
What's wrong with gsm?
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Omg, is that Matt Bernstein??!!
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as a member of the letter gang, can we just call ourselves the letter gang and be done with it?
Short and badass... I'd sign the petition.
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There are straight trans people in the LGBT community. It's not as simple as "not straight".
Enlighten me, Jack.
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If "queer" is an umbrella term then why wouldn't the whole community just be referred to as such?
Similarly, I'm not 100% sure about this but afaik the + got commonly added before the IA, and I really dislike adding anything specific after a generalized "everyone who feels part of it" because doing that delegitimizes that the + actually means everyone. Though it also does suck if people feel excluded otherwise.
I've seen queer used to refer to the whole community though, but I think LGBT(+whichever addendums) has just been around for so long it's most people's goto, plus "queer" used to be a slur.
In my head it's just "people not conforming to the majority group for sex or gender related reasons" and then I write whatever my brain decides is the term in that moment. Usually LGBTQ+.
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I met someone in a dream last night named Fobertleigh. There is no point to this, The post just reminded me of it.
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as a member of the letter gang, can we just call ourselves the letter gang and be done with it?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I propose it should be changed to PFQ: "Pretty. Fucking. Queer."
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I met someone in a dream last night named Fobertleigh. There is no point to this, The post just reminded me of it.
That's kinda neat. Out of curiosity did they tell you their name in the dream or did you just sort of know it?
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That's kinda neat. Out of curiosity did they tell you their name in the dream or did you just sort of know it?
They told me. I was at work and introducing myself to someone new. Looking back now, I think it was a girl I went to highschool with but her name most certainly wasn't Fobertleigh back then.
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I propose it should be changed to PFQ: "Pretty. Fucking. Queer."
️Think of the asexuals! PQ (pretty, queer) or POFQ (pretty, optionally fucking, queer) are much better.
