It's a tragedeigh
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"The terms pansexual, omnisexual, fluid and queer-identified are regarded as falling under the umbrella term bisexual (and therefore are considered a part of the bisexual community). Some use LGBT+ to mean "LGBT and related communities".[29] Other variants may have a "U" for "unsure"; a "C" for "curious"; another "T" for "transvestite"; a "TS", "2S", or "2" for "two-spirit" persons; or an "SA" for "straight allies".[48][49][50][51][52] The inclusion of straight allies in the LGBT initialism has proven controversial, as many straight allies have been accused of using LGBT advocacy to gain popularity and status in recent years,[53] and various LGBT activists have criticised the heteronormative worldview of certain straight allies.[54] Some may also add a "P" for "polyamorous" or "pangender", an "H" for "HIV-affected", or an "O" for "other".[14][55] The initialism LGBTIH has seen use in India to encompass the hijra third gender identity and the related subculture.[56][57]"
Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol.
Only Anglo-Saxons can make not being straight an overly structured and semantically confusing endeavour, lol.
Except the thing about India at the end of your quote...
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There does seem to be a varying number of letters in it and sometimes a plus
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I actually love when a new overspelled name comes out. It gives me more fuel for when I screw up peoples names from the short form. Jessleigh, Jessifer, Jessbinder, Jessolomew, etc.
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I think the point is that the classification into discrete categories is kind of contrary to the point of queerness.
Similarly, the whole point of the original rainbow pride flag was that it was all-encompassing, i.e. representing the entire spectrum of human gender and sexuality. But that keeps getting added to as well.
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To be honest, I think we should just switch to using "queer" at this point. The Q covers everything. In fact we could just use the letter Q and be like on star trek.
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Omg, is that Matt Bernstein??!!
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yup. Matt's great. Love the podcast.
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This sounds like the NPC I make up on the spot when the players ask the guard their name
Pick a name and use it for every guard, except switch the first consonant every time.
They will get a kick out of it a few times, and then slowly learn that there's no point in asking the guard's name.
Lambert, Hambert, Tambert, Kambert, and Dambert all come from a long lineage of esteemed city guards
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Similarly, the whole point of the original rainbow pride flag was that it was all-encompassing, i.e. representing the entire spectrum of human gender and sexuality. But that keeps getting added to as well.
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No. People just keep subdividing pantone numbers.
I suppose you could argue that new technologies and ways of seeing ourselves have added genuinely new dimensions to it, but if you dont get the thing about maps not being territory, you almost certainly havent engaged with or heard of any of those.
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To be honest, I think we should just switch to using "queer" at this point. The Q covers everything. In fact we could just use the letter Q and be like on star trek.
Five letters is fine, but I'm not subscribed to the new's letter for knowing what all the add-ons to it mean. It never changes anything for me to know anyway. Just treat people with dignity. "Queer" should be fine at this point for casual use.
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Breh, what kid? I just discovered some people make half my rent and live a more meaningfull life.
Btw we live in small appartment, not some luxurious private island you'd expect for that kind of money.
Fuck this economy xD
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Five letters is fine, but I'm not subscribed to the new's letter for knowing what all the add-ons to it mean. It never changes anything for me to know anyway. Just treat people with dignity. "Queer" should be fine at this point for casual use.
In my daily dealings with fellow queers
, I find most people say "LGBT" in casual speech instead of other variations of the acronym, occasionally adding the "Q", but I've never heard somebody casually drop a "LGBTQIA+." I think we all know that LGBT is inclusive; that, or there's a silent ellipsis at the end. -
Either I skipped over the word 'trans' or it was added later on...
LGB T QIA+
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A big downside to that is that queer was originally insult and some people have negative associations with it and therefore avoid it and might not want to be categorized as such I have heard the "queer community" be used especially in spoken language. The letters LGBT have also been around for a while so it would be weird to get rid of them now.
The thing about the initialism I find weird is there's plenty of variation, and people can almost sorta pick and choose, build their own initialism. Sure, some are used more than others, but no apparent standard per se. So which ones get included in the initialism, vs. which ones are hidden behind the + or behind the Q, or perhaps neither the + or the Q gets used. Kinda like the flag. You have the classic, popular one. The colours have their meaning, but not specific to certain "letters" (groups of people). But then you have some with black and brown, for people of colour. Some add trans colours. Some have that purple with ring thing I can't remember if it's non-binary or what. Nothing against these variations, though I wonder the need, when the originals were not specific or exclusive. The original colours weren't about identity, far as I know. Now they make updates with identity-based meaning. If I am someone with less knowledge or something, and I'm gonna make use of an initialism or flag, which one would I choose? Would I just say LGBT and use the traditional six-colour flag? Would that be exclusive? Do I add the QIA+? Do I need black, brown, pink, blue on the flag? Shit, I didn't add the Pi symbol. Is that a flag variant? Sure seen a flag with Pi on it
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The humour in this to not include 2S+ is the best part
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In my daily dealings with fellow queers
, I find most people say "LGBT" in casual speech instead of other variations of the acronym, occasionally adding the "Q", but I've never heard somebody casually drop a "LGBTQIA+." I think we all know that LGBT is inclusive; that, or there's a silent ellipsis at the end.I think part of it is that a lot of straight people who are allies but not as familiar with the queer community feel strange about using the word queer, thinking that it's a reclaimed slur that they wouldn't be allowed to say if they aren't themselves queer. They don't realize that the queer community has collectively decided that no "pass" is needed for the word queer.
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To be honest, I think we should just switch to using "queer" at this point. The Q covers everything. In fact we could just use the letter Q and be like on star trek.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It still makes me uncomfortable as an old fart Gen Xer from back when it was almost exclusively used as a slur, but I recognize it's been reclaimed. It's just a hard association to break.
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It still makes me uncomfortable as an old fart Gen Xer from back when it was almost exclusively used as a slur, but I recognize it's been reclaimed. It's just a hard association to break.
I just use LGBT+ since it was LGBT for a long time (it was GLBT but the Ls earned their place at the front during the AIDS crisis) then it became LGBTQ, then a bunch of other letters were added while the community was recognizing is profound variety before it turned into LGBTQ+
Q+ has a nice ring to it, but since I'm an unusual form of NB, I fit squarely into the catch-all variety of Q.
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I just use LGBT+ since it was LGBT for a long time (it was GLBT but the Ls earned their place at the front during the AIDS crisis) then it became LGBTQ, then a bunch of other letters were added while the community was recognizing is profound variety before it turned into LGBTQ+
Q+ has a nice ring to it, but since I'm an unusual form of NB, I fit squarely into the catch-all variety of Q.
I automatically say LGBTQ if I'm not just specifying which one I'm talking about. I guess that's what got codified in my head before the plus become commonplace.
I always thought I was regular ol' cis until recently, but when I thought about it I realized I didn't really care about my gender identity and just used he/him because it's what I was born as and didn't have any problem with it. Apagender, I've seen it called. I've seen some are also fine with it/its, but I find those dehumanizing.
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In my daily dealings with fellow queers
, I find most people say "LGBT" in casual speech instead of other variations of the acronym, occasionally adding the "Q", but I've never heard somebody casually drop a "LGBTQIA+." I think we all know that LGBT is inclusive; that, or there's a silent ellipsis at the end.Canada uses 2SLGBTQIA+, https://www.canada.ca/en/women-gender-equality/free-to-be-me/2slgbtqi-plus-glossary.html
